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Cloud vs Vortex Video

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Cloud vs Vortex Video

Unread postAuthor: Spuddin » Wed May 30, 2007 8:31 am

Update: I did a cloud vs vortex video to show the difference.
ok guys this is my first aluminum vortex block for my mac 10 .177 cal bbmg. I finally got to shoot it and take video but it was dark sorry, this thing is awesome to say the least. the ROF is amazing and it shoots harder than the cloud i first built. i made both to see the difference, a cloud and a vortex and i would go with the vortex anyday. this gun can be completely stripped down with a cresent wrench. im going to install a spring and plunger soon. btw i try to keep my shots in a big cardboard box so i can use a magnet to gather up the bb's and reuse them unless they hit something hard.

http://www.freewebs.com/spuddin
my site has more info on making it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7xGT1CVY5E[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF4njuRj6zo[/youtube]
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solid aluminum block after casting
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drilled and ready to install
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Mac 10 bbmg
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stripped down - new paint job, new grip in the works
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Unread postAuthor: ondskehem » Wed May 30, 2007 9:17 am

Way to go.

I like the raw-metal-style at parts in guns. No f-in plastics ;).
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Unread postAuthor: VH_man » Wed May 30, 2007 11:46 am

damn...... thats nice. cant wait to see it. see if you cant go out and buy a cheap replica of the MAC10 to mount the gun in....
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Unread postAuthor: origin unknown » Wed May 30, 2007 12:39 pm

That is just plain beautiful!
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Vortex Scetch

Unread postAuthor: Spuddin » Wed May 30, 2007 3:10 pm

here is a sketch of how the gun is assembled. i think it is a little different from some of the others but not sure.
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Unread postAuthor: iknowmy3tables » Wed May 30, 2007 3:55 pm

awesome job so far for a guy who sounds iffy on vortex blocks. now you need a ram a spring loaded device that will push the bbs forward other wise you will have feeding problems after to tank gets a little low
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Unread postAuthor: VH_man » Wed May 30, 2007 4:10 pm

wow..... i wish i had an air compressor to fire bbmg's with............

you should make that silencer actually work. id bet 50 bucks it would actually make the gun quiet enough the only sound you hear is the bb's rolling across the vortex block.......... and the rain of destrution on the receiving end.........
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Unread postAuthor: Spuddin » Wed May 30, 2007 4:29 pm

great advice thx, i will work on that spring loaded plunger bb feeding mechanism thingy dober majiger.
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Unread postAuthor: origin unknown » Wed May 30, 2007 5:19 pm

Spuddin wrote:great advice thx, i will work on that spring loaded plunger bb feeding mechanism thingy dober majiger.


If you can't find a spring long enough you might can make one yourself. I coiled one, tempered it, and then burned oil around it to make it springy for my BBMG. A washer, or a piston would work great for pushing the BBs in.
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Unread postAuthor: noname » Wed May 30, 2007 6:35 pm

A silencer would be useless for a strafer, except for looks. There isn't enough sound to be silenced, although I'd find the pinging of the BBs and the metal block funny. :lol:
Make sure the block is removable, because you used the "full hole" type of block, which is prone to jamming without shrouds on it.
Another problem I see is that the air input is going to be very difficult to set up, unless you mount it in clear pipe.
The block itself looks pretty good, great job with the aluminum.
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Unread postAuthor: Spuddin » Thu May 31, 2007 7:43 am

your right noname about the noise, the silencer is only for looks and a hand grip but i got it all put together with shrouds on the block and the whole gun can be taken apart with 1 cresent wrench. everything lined up. it took me a while to get it figured out but i got it to all fit correctly. the rate of fire is awesome. i even hooked up a 1 pound propane bottle to power it but the propane does not come out fast enough, maybe if i made a expansion chamber i could shoot bursts with it. btw according to research green gas is propane.
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the bottle adapter can be found at some propane refill stores for a couple bucks.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu May 31, 2007 7:58 am

VH_man wrote:wow..... i wish i had an air compressor to fire bbmg's with............


You can do without one, have a look >>here<< :wink:
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vortex block

Unread postAuthor: dweasel » Thu May 31, 2007 8:12 am

Can anyone explain the block to me or send me a good schematic.
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Unread postAuthor: fastcannonman » Thu May 31, 2007 9:13 am

danm thats a buitie! The sketch helps me understand it. Overall grate job!
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Re: vortex block

Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu May 31, 2007 9:20 am

dweasel wrote:Can anyone explain the block to me or send me a good schematic.


You can tell how it works here
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