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Unread postAuthor: sputnick » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:09 am

tough break kid, if they really are as bad as you claim, them maybe it wouldn't be the best idea to just keep them in the dark, just gotta try to convince them that you are interested in guns, and theres nothing wrong with it.
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:21 am

raptorforce wrote:what is the mature fashion way because in my house mature means being so responible that you will never ever make a mistake so basically you are prefect which means you can't be yelled at but that has never happened yet


If your parents have a major bias against guns in general, then you may have an uphill battle. Otherwise, it sounds like you're experiencing some fairly typical teen growing up years there my man... :wink: Ages 13-15 are some pretty tough years for just about everyone and their parents. Hang in there and ride it out...things should get easier for both of you as time goes on.
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Unread postAuthor: raptorforce » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:26 am

sputnick wrote:tough break kid, if they really are as bad as you claim, them maybe it wouldn't be the best idea to just keep them in the dark, just gotta try to convince them that you are interested in guns, and theres nothing wrong with it.
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i did one time but my mom is still a firm believer of gun control even though i told her all the studies and statistics.

my dad isnt so bad at least if he isnt angry i just ask him isolated questions then add it to my gun
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Unread postAuthor: raptorforce » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:29 am

starman wrote:
raptorforce wrote:what is the mature fashion way because in my house mature means being so responible that you will never ever make a mistake so basically you are prefect which means you can't be yelled at but that has never happened yet


If your parents have a major bias against guns in general, then you may have an uphill battle. Otherwise, it sounds like you're experiencing some fairly typical teen growing up years there my man... :wink: Ages 13-15 are some pretty tough years for just about everyone and their parents. Hang in there and ride it out...things should get easier for both of you as time goes on.


i se it as getting harder because getting older=more chores= more things to go wrong=more yelling.

i do hang in there i do get angry but it takes alot to make me show it
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:40 am

Then stick to your dad like glue, it sounds like he is convincable (like most dad's are). Show him your drawings...let him look on the Spudfiles site and show him good examples of cannons. Ask him to help you with it and that you would feel priviledged to have him work with you. This is the mature approach.

There are ways to get parents support. Being a whiny kid may get you what you want sometimes, but at the cost of still being viewed as, well, a whiny kid. It also wears on parents nerves like there's no tomorrow.

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raptorforce wrote:i se it as getting harder because getting older=more chores= more things to go wrong=more yelling.


Amazingly, it doesn't work that way....honest!... :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: raptorforce » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:56 am

starman wrote:Then stick to your dad like glue, it sounds like he is convincable (like most dad's are). Show him your drawings...let him look on the Spudfiles site and show him good examples of cannons. Ask him to help you with it and that you would feel priviledged to have him work with you. This is the mature approach.

There are ways to get parents support. Being a whiny kid may get you what you want sometimes, but at the cost of still being viewed as, well, a whiny kid. It also wears on parents nerves like there's no tomorrow.

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raptorforce wrote:i se it as getting harder because getting older=more chores= more things to go wrong=more yelling.


Amazingly, it doesn't work that way....honest!... :wink:


well he may be convinciable but he unfortunatly has my mom's ideals also in his heart. so he doesnt want me building gun's so i just ask him questions. my parents are asian and no amount of whining could change there mind i tried when i was younger. the only time i might whine is when i do like trimming the tree which uses clippers and saws then putting them in the bin then i do other things after that. then im done and im all ready to relax then my dad comes up with another chore that the only time i will complain
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Unread postAuthor: microman171 » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:22 am

I get my pocket money, and that can go to what ever I want (within reason I guess). So I suppose that would be the finance you are talking about? My Dad lets be construct any cannon, so long as I pay for it.

My Dad is always interested in my final product.

raptorforce - What other cannons have you made? How did they make your Dad feel?
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Unread postAuthor: raptorforce » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:45 am

microman171 wrote:I get my pocket money, and that can go to what ever I want (within reason I guess). So I suppose that would be the finance you are talking about? My Dad lets be construct any cannon, so long as I pay for it.

My Dad is always interested in my final product.

raptorforce - What other cannons have you made? How did they make your Dad feel?

i get pocket money to but you probably/might get more then me. my dad doesnt care about it only watching it shoot.
i have made 1 other cannon but i never had a piece of ammo to use so i dont use it
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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:45 am

How about you try showing your parent that spudguns are different from fire arms, or show them that they require a high level of understanding of their physics, to do that take part in a contest, maybe school relatted with some friends who have similar intrest. Build a really good cannon and win the contest(its not THAT hard). Then invite your parents to the exibit( or how ever the contestans project are displayed) If you win they might change their minds and understand that these cannons help you learn. I am not tellign you to follow the above step by step but something along the lines might help, just a suggestion though. I managed to get my parents involved my mad liking for chemistry, now i have a tutor, get to do all experiments, am about five years ahead of my classmates and am very happy. I build stup uns in our cellar, my parents know a little about it but not too much, never had problems.
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Unread postAuthor: raptorforce » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:01 pm

john bunsenburner wrote:How about you try showing your parent that spudguns are different from fire arms, or show them that they require a high level of understanding of their physics, to do that take part in a contest, maybe school relatted with some friends who have similar intrest. Build a really good cannon and win the contest(its not THAT hard). Then invite your parents to the exibit( or how ever the contestans project are displayed) If you win they might change their minds and understand that these cannons help you learn. I am not tellign you to follow the above step by step but something along the lines might help, just a suggestion though. I managed to get my parents involved my mad liking for chemistry, now i have a tutor, get to do all experiments, am about five years ahead of my classmates and am very happy. I build stup uns in our cellar, my parents know a little about it but not too much, never had problems.

no one that i know has the same intrest they like playing video games more. i havent taken physics yet
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:39 pm

raptorforce wrote:no one that i know has the same intrest they like playing video games more. i havent taken physics yet


By participating in Spud gunning at the level you are here, you are learning some portions of physics, by default...you can't help but do so. That was John's main point, not that you should be taking physics in school right now.
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Unread postAuthor: raptorforce » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:21 am

update: i finally made the plans and i must say the m240 machine gun is big. going out to buy the parts tommrow.
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Unread postAuthor: microman171 » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:29 am

Cool :-). I look forward to seeing this, never point this at anything you don't want to shoot. Show your parents you have respect for it, and convincing them to let you build another one may be easier.
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Unread postAuthor: raptorforce » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:03 pm

microman171 wrote:Cool :-). I look forward to seeing this, never point this at anything you don't want to shoot. Show your parents you have respect for it, and convincing them to let you build another one may be easier.

i know the basics of guns as i am a boy scout and shoot .22 rifles and shot .30-.06. and i have airsoft and pellets guns. they try make me have other intrests other then building stuff to destroy stuff which is why theydont want me to use guns at home
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