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Inline Vortex Vs Vortex Cap

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Unread postAuthor: nosebleedXD » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:20 pm

k i built the vortex cap, pics will be up tomorrow

btw i am having trouble with the barrel

i just drill a hole and put the barrel in its a bit too big the whole i drilled so it wobles up and down i glued it down but i don think its the best solution

whats the proper way of installing a barrel?

and my barrel is just a random steel tube used in window curtains etc
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Unread postAuthor: noname » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:57 pm

I hope you understand that your film canister gun is essentially a sideways cloud. :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: Davidvaini » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:55 am

noname wrote:I hope you understand that your film canister gun is essentially a sideways cloud. :wink:


Yes and no.

Yes because his barrel is not flush with the curvature of the film canister. Therefore the vortex of air that is created will have a harder time chambering each BB into the barrel.

No, because the shape of the film canister re-directs the air in a circular manner causing a vortex. But like I said above.. the barrel is not aligned properly and will negate all the effects of the vortex that is created by the shape of the film canister.

This pictures shows the right and wrong way to align your barrel and air inlet:
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This is a very crucial part in the design of a vortex cap. if your barrel is not flush, you will get a lot of BB's that don't go into the barrel the first time they have been spun around. The ideal situation is that every time a BB spins around the circular shape of the vortex cap or block it gets chambered into the barrel.

Not only does this increase ROF of your BBMG, but it also increases efficiency. It increases efficiency because regardless of weather a BB has been chambered or not, the air is still going to go out the barrel.. so you might as well have a BB going out with the air as well.
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Unread postAuthor: django » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:04 am

Maybe I'll have another go at making one of these!? my first attempt did not feed at all, it didnt aggitate the bbs about for some reason?? I was using .177 Steel bb's in mine though and just would not fire?.........
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Unread postAuthor: nosebleedXD » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:07 pm

hey thanks alot davidvaini

i believe i have to rebuild my whole actual vortex cap gun then

i am having trouble drilling it the correct way

the drill would slip right off when i am trying to drill it the correct way and i end up drilling myself

is there any tips on how to drill it perfectly measurements etc etc

btw i used a 1.5" DWV cap because i couldnt find a 1 inch at my home depot

is it too big or etc etc

i haven't really seen how an actual vortex cap itself

i've seen the p90 vortex cap one but i dont see how the cap itself is actually drilled etc etc

also i've been looking at this one

http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/files/bbmg_006_183.jpg

that one aint aligned like what you've said o_O is that bad
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Unread postAuthor: nosebleedXD » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:59 pm

this is driving me nuts back to inline vortex sorry for wasting your time guys

ima just build back the old fashion
http://www.spudfiles.com/spud_wiki/inde ... ortex_BBMG

hopefully shoot through a can with this build

now i realise the 1.5" cap is WAY too big =[
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