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Inline Vortex Vs Vortex Cap

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Unread postAuthor: nosebleedXD » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:33 pm

i was just wondering which one is better

i've been having trouble making inline vortex because i dont have a spring

and does vortex cap require a shroud?

i will post up couple plans i had in mind in a bit

btw is a 1 inch abs dwv pipe good for making vortex cap gun?

PS if you have any plans of a gun i could build please post

my first 1/4th finished bb gun
http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/viewtop ... tml#256339
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Unread postAuthor: noname » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:41 pm

Build both and find out for yourself. Springs aren't hard to find anywhere.
ABS will be fine for any vortex gun without a high pressure ball detent.
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Unread postAuthor: nosebleedXD » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:46 pm

yeah springs are pretty darn hard to find for me at least =[ i tried several different stores including auto stores and etc etc
is it possible to make my own spring

and i was wondering, i dont have one of those wood circle cutters

how do i make the plunger and etc if i were to make an inline vortex
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Unread postAuthor: noname » Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:16 pm

There's all kinds of things you can buy at any hardware store that should have springs in them. The computer lamp sitting right next to me has springs that would work fine.
As for making a plunger, all you need is a loose fitting piston and a spring. I've used a bottle cap as a plunger before; it just has to be loose enough to slide and tight enough so that BBs can't fit past it.
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Unread postAuthor: nosebleedXD » Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:45 pm

im trying to build a gun like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewJ7qMCz ... annel_page

but with an abs pipe

kk ima sit down tonight and start getting my dimensions right and finish this gun tomorrow im tired of this i wanna finish this gun and rip a can in half by wednesday before school starts
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Unread postAuthor: twizi » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:47 am

what about a sprinklers those have spring like that
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Unread postAuthor: noname » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:43 am

That's correct; you could use a spring from a sprinkler valve, although it would be a better choice to use a spring from a valve repair kit.
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Unread postAuthor: nosebleedXD » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:58 am

ima just try a vortex cap =[

since if i build an inline vortex i want it to be like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewJ7qMCz ... annel_page

but its hard to make the plunger aline with the vortex block etc etc ram rod

ima see if home depot is open today

thanks alot noname and everyone
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Unread postAuthor: nosebleedXD » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:16 pm

hey i've been trying to build a pvc tank for a while now but all i've had was a leaker 2L bottle which no longer works anymore

i was just wondering how would i identify a pressure rated pvc pipes

i tried calling home depot and asking the people at the stores but alll of the have no clue
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Unread postAuthor: twizi » Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:58 pm

no i meant an actuall sprinkler to water your plant the one that pop up have nice sized spring in them they come in a variety of size so u should find one that fits
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Unread postAuthor: nosebleedXD » Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:14 pm

i finally understand the power of the vortex gun >_<

home depot was closed today so i decided to build a vortex cap gun out of a film canister

im sure there are leaks and etc but i just used a scissor and made random holes for and in and out hole

here are the result from just 50 psi and a 2 second put together gun with leaks

i can feel the impact of the bullets swirling inside the canister and i had to hold the lid down for the gun to fire but here is the gun etc etc

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Unread postAuthor: nosebleedXD » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:19 pm

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Unread postAuthor: nosebleedXD » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:00 pm

tell me what you think =[
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Unread postAuthor: littlebro05 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:39 am

I actually did work on a project like this. It's still incomplete and sitting in the corner of my room because I was meant to put it in a M16 toygun, kinda fits right but anyway. I got a short video of it I think...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvzeh2sPDl4[/youtube]

It's just an idea. I used a 45degree elbow instead though because it would feed better than a 90 degree one. Also I didn't have to use a spring but a shroud is a must or else it will definitely get jammed. My shroud was just like 2 layers of tissue box cardboard and placed in a slit I cut. Check it out. It might help :).
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Unread postAuthor: nosebleedXD » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:07 am

hey thats a sick gun =]

ima try it first without a shroud and see how it goes because my film canister was filled full and it was still fine

and as for the 45 degree elbow i might consider

thanks =]
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