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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:33 pm

I disagree a ball valve has great flow if you can cet the thing open quick enough, there great for higher pressure and have great power with a detent to hold it back till say, 500 PSI which a sprinkler valve cant handle
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:34 pm

*sigh* I italisized the "almost" part for a reason :wink:
and you stole that from JSR :D
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:37 pm

Yes, bust it not thievery, you say piston valves are the best all the time, you "stole" that from a ton of people, plus I designed a gun to test that concept but I havent built the shock pump yet
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:40 pm

Nope, never said piston valves are the best. Burst disks are, and you can quote me on that. Or perhaps its the valveless launcher... IDK.
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:47 pm

No you told a guy the best valve to build it a Piston valve, but technically a valveless launcher doesnt have a valve
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:48 pm

Find the post man, find the post.
clemsonguy1125 wrote:technically a valveless launcher doesnt have a valve

Hence the name :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:50 pm

but we were discussing valves, and Ill find the post eventually I dont feel like going through 1305 post, it would take a while
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:06 pm

In a way, the detent in the valveless launcher acts as the valve. It is what holds back the air pressure. But then again, the projectile could even be considered the valve too, because it does the same.
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:08 pm

that depends JSRs prototype use the pellets deforming shirt to hold the air and a screw as the trigger to hold the pellet
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:09 pm

Umm.... deforming shirt?
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:15 pm

Gun Freak wrote:Umm.... deforming shirt?

my bad typo, I meant skirt
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Unread postAuthor: velocity3x » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:21 pm

"Gun Freak".....tell you a ball valve is the least powerful pneumatic valve to use. They have poor opening times unless you build a trigger system and spring load it which I think is a pain.


You state that as fact but, my guess is that you have little or no personal experience to justify such an opinion. You probably read it somewhere and rely on it as fact. :D :D
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:25 pm

You screwed up that quote :roll: :wink:
Most ball valve cannons aren't spring loaded, therefor have terrible opening times, and although they have good flow, they can easily be outdone by the other valves I suggested. I have nothing against ball valves. In combo with an air cylinder or trigger system, they can rival a piston valve in performace.
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Unread postAuthor: Gippeto » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:45 am

@ gunfreak and clemson...you guys ever heard of CHAT or PM?

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Unread postAuthor: maverik94 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:44 pm

I disagree a ball valve has great flow if you can cet the thing open quick enough, there great for higher pressure and have great power with a detent to hold it back till say, 500 PSI which a sprinkler valve cant handle

But a qev and a piston valve would be able to handle that, and they would open much faster.
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