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Unread postAuthor: haze » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:27 pm

hey i was thinking about making a cloud bb gun and putting it in a toy mp5 or similar shell. i was wondering has anyone used this http://finewhip.cart.net.au/store/co2cleaner.html as a air source and pistol grip?:)
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Unread postAuthor: lozz08 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:34 pm

It's going to cost you a lot of money to run a cloud off of small co2 canisters. You will get around 3 seconds of firing out of each canister. Even if cost is no issue, it will be annoying having to change canisters all the time.
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Unread postAuthor: haze » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:46 pm

but surely if they are used in that device for a jet of air for cleaning computers they would be ideal. i have seen people use the bike inflators and this is much the same? btw those little canisters are used in airsoft so they cant be too inneficient.
i would like to know if anyone has actually done this so they can give me tips before i waste my money on it...
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Unread postAuthor: jhalek90 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:44 pm

dont do it.

as siad above, you will get aprox. 3 seconds of firing time.... not to mention that the 12g co2 carts will cost more than the ammo you are shooting.... which is expensive enough in a bbmg.

if you want to use c02..... try a regulated paintball tank.
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Unread postAuthor: saefroch » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:26 pm

That device for cleaning uses a very restricted flow, tiny compared to what you're looking at for a cloud. Yes, it is possible to inflate a bike tire off a CO2 cartridge, but only because the pressure in the bike tire usually only goes to 60psi. That cartridge, I think is around 850psi. Those little canisters are used in airsoft because they dispense a small volume into a separate valve system, and at lower pressure than the CO2 cartridge.

I know from personal experience that if you just punch a hole in that cartridge you'll get about 5 seconds of time, but it'll only be at all impressive for the first two seconds.

The only good option for running a cloud is to run it off a large tank.
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Unread postAuthor: lozz08 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:50 pm

In my opinion, your best option is to buy a floor bike pump, and make large-ish chamber out of steel or aluminium pipe and either attach it to your gun, or put it in a backpack and run a line to your gun. I have gone down the co2 route before and I implore you not to.
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:44 pm

A fire extinguisher is a good option for an air tank and provides a lot of air. I use my new bike pump to put mine up to about 180 psi.
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Unread postAuthor: haze » Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:22 am

ok cheers guys, can you tell me how you made that gun freak? it would probs be real usefull. PS how much fire time do u get of that tank?
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