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Unread postAuthor: lukemc » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:21 am

i dont feel like giving a big speech about how i thought of this but what if yo turn the vortex block 90 degrees you could have bbs load from both sides and work probly be very reliable. the overall look of the gun would suffer but other than that i see not real flaws. so here it is

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Unread postAuthor: Brooner115 » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:30 pm

theres a flaw in that design and in the pictures :( If you can some how figure out how to get the bottom of the new Circuler Vortex Block flush with the bottom of the BB chamber than it would work. But because there is a lip from the Block in the BB chamber which in turn would leave a lot of BB's left in the chamber and decreassing the amount of BB's being shot out.

My suggestion is to make the two inclines that you see in the first picture be flush with the bottom of the Vortex Block but that would decrease the amount of BB's held in the chamber. My other suggestion is to build it and let us know if its any good. And if anyone disagrees about the flaw that I see than I could be wrong... but what ever.
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Unread postAuthor: lukemc » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:38 pm

well yes i saw that and forgot to fix it but your right it would be better to have the incinnes flush with the block
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Unread postAuthor: potatoflinger » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:47 pm

Or you could just mount the air source in the bottom of the pipe and mount the barrel in the side of the pipe, using the pipe as a vortex block, then, all you would have to do is place shrouds about 1/2" apart, on each side of the air source and barrel.
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Unread postAuthor: rednecktatertosser » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:53 pm

umm... I may have misunderstood but... on vortex blocks bbs already come in on both sides.
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Unread postAuthor: Hotwired » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:58 pm

An offset circle could have the vortex floor flush with the chamber.

I think this design could work better if it wasn't mounted in piping and just had a ammo box built around it...
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Unread postAuthor: jimmy101 » Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:18 pm

You can do the same thing with a traditional bondo vortex design in a T fitting or elbow.

Take a look at Latke's instructions. Take the two cutoffs and slice them at an angle then glue them back onto vortex block (or into the chamber).

In the picture, the yellow is a basic vortex viewed from the muzzle. The orange rectangle on the left side is one of the first cutoffs made. This cutoff is sliced at an angle and glued back onto the vortex (or into the chamber) as shown by the greenish triangle on the right.

There are more complex ways to cut the cutoffs that can nearly completely eliminate the problem of getting the last few BBs into the vortex. But they are very hard to draw. Basically, the base of the green triangle has to reach almost all the way to the vertical part of the vortex. A roughly cylindrical indention somewhat wider the vortex hole is cut in the triangular piece.
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Unread postAuthor: lukemc » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:41 pm

well i thought this idea would be different ant could be put in an "inline" style because the vortexes in a tee are almost always bulky
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Unread postAuthor: noname » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:15 pm

Performance would pretty much suck, if you consider that if you tilt the chamber the slightest bit sideways, the BBs will stop feeding. The vortex would also be overly difficult to build, and it's not worth it in general.
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