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Unread postAuthor: singularity » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:18 pm

do i need to put a shroud on an inline vortex block? also what would happen if i may or may not have glued the block in place making it nearly impossible to install one? would it work fine without one?
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Unread postAuthor: Fnord » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:26 pm

It should work without one. I believe Noname said he doesn't use a shroud with his. I made one that uses a shroud and it works fine though, so it should work either way.
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Unread postAuthor: singularity » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:32 pm

i have a normal "tee" version of the vortex gun with a shroud on it but i was in a rush to finish this inline one (got to have it done and completely dried by Tuesday) and it just slipped my mind. so before i go even further can some one else confirm that it doesn't need a shroud to work correctly. there is still sort of a chance that i can get a shroud on it now (it would be a massive pain in the a$$ though)
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Unread postAuthor: noname » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:17 pm

It depends. If you used a "full hole" vortex block, it will most likely jam without shrouds. If you used the "partial hole" design, shrouds only jam and are unnecessary.
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Unread postAuthor: singularity » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:20 pm

in that case... crap i just finished epoxying a $40 tight bore onto the gun and the block is completely sealed now
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Unread postAuthor: spudbud101 » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:29 pm

Ouch. Hope you figure something out...

I ordered a block from noname and judging from the pictures (haven't gotten the thing yet) he puts shrouds on his.
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Unread postAuthor: noname » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:42 pm

Singularity, what do you mean by the block is completely sealed?
Spudbud, no, I don't. All they do is jam up the block, so I leave them off.
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Unread postAuthor: spudbud101 » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:51 pm

Never mind. :D My bad.
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Unread postAuthor: singularity » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:07 pm

i may or may not have covered the block with epoxy instead of usinfg an end cap. its a little hard to explain... i used a modified "tee" form block in an inline wait i ll draw a picture

<img src="http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j85/irwinner_2006/vortex1.jpg">

yellow= brass (air inlet nipple and barrel)
orange= vortex block
white= pipe
gray= epoxy

its basically a tee vortex block turned on its side, if any ones still lost ill go find a camera and take a picture of the real thing

im thinking if it does jam really bad ill just cut the pipe at the position i have marked "1" and use a coupler to put it back together
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Unread postAuthor: noname » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:17 pm

Try it out first, if you don't have shrouds on it, it will most likely jam.
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Unread postAuthor: singularity » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:46 pm

wow i just tested this thing its like twice as menacing as my old gun, AND it shoots in a straight line :D (i had no idea that the tight bore would give me such an improvement) it didn't jam but i haven't put in the spring piston thing yet, i really hope this works. it will be battle tested tomorrow after that ill probably post it within a week (there are a few cosmetic things i need to do the gun is styled after an AK)
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Unread postAuthor: SureShot » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:49 pm

hey, that's good to hear... i'm about to make an inline and i'm glad you got good results. so no shroud eih? let us know if it jams. :D
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Unread postAuthor: singularity » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:38 am

well it does jam if i try to continuously fire but if i keep it at like short bursts of 50-100 bbs (also know as one second or less of firing) it seems to be fine. and i only tested it with .2g bbs so far but it seems to go about 90ft in a perfectly straight line then instantly spread out into about a 40 ft circle. its a kinda odd phenomenon to watch. i do have 10,000 .25g bbs in the basement ill have to test. if i find a high res camera ill try and video tape it for you. also i would like to include the fact that this thing sounds like a mini gun, i mean it scares me to even fire it.
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Unread postAuthor: SureShot » Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:33 pm

wow, that's a lot of rounds per second... does anyone know how to decrease the rate of fire with a vortex? that seems excessive.
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Unread postAuthor: spudbud101 » Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:37 pm

Less air? I'm just guessing here.
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