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Unread postAuthor: f.c » Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:45 am

well i am making a new bbmg. i have a fair experience with clouds. but what i am making is not a cloud and it is not a vortex block. its kind of in between. its being built into a t section which killagoilla pointed out to me is nothing new. but the loading system will be slightly different. so the help i need is people to give me tips. and answer me the question of how to get a lower r.o.f. please contribute all help is appreciated. much thanks.

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Unread postAuthor: frankrede » Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:51 pm

Its one or the other.
Your description is vague.
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Unread postAuthor: f.c » Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:03 am

no this is a hybrid of the two. it uses a cloud system to feed the bb's in a new type of vortex block. but i have said too much already.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:29 am

A cloud doesn't 'feed' BB's, it just has them sitting in the chamber like a vortex block has them sitting in the vortex chamber part, I don't see how this uses the advantages of both....Which the only real advantage with a cloud is that they're easy to make.
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Unread postAuthor: f.c » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:42 am

its hard to explain. the bb's are fed into a spherical vortex block from the cloud reducing the r.o.f.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:54 am

One way of lowering the ROF is by adding a tight piece of flexible tubing at the breech, it will also give you more power as it allows pressure to build up in the BB chamber before it fires. The tricky bit is to get the right compression in the tube that will release the BB only when high pressure is achieved.
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Unread postAuthor: SureShot » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:02 pm

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:One way of lowering the ROF is by adding a tight piece of flexible tubing at the breech, it will also give you more power as it allows pressure to build up in the BB chamber before it fires. The tricky bit is to get the right compression in the tube that will release the BB only when high pressure is achieved.


a little more detail here please... sounds interesting.
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Unread postAuthor: frankrede » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:58 pm

I see enough detail. By adding a tight point in the barrel the bbs will jam temprarily but shoot out with more pressure.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:05 pm

SureShot wrote:a little more detail here please... sounds interesting.


here you go, courtesy of Jimmy ;)
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Unread postAuthor: Spudinator » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:35 am

OK dude, its either one way or the other, unless you are willing to draw a pic or something to explain in more detail. I've seen and tested my share of automatics, so its probably nothing new, and its not like somebody is gonna steal your design or anything (I'm kinda doubting you are gonna throw out a patent for it).

If you want help with something, try not to be vague man, its a PITA.
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Unread postAuthor: SureShot » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:28 pm

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
SureShot wrote:a little more detail here please... sounds interesting.


here you go, courtesy of Jimmy ;)


thanks... but i think something like that would be difficult for a vortex block as you can't get to the part with a larger drill bit where the rubber tube would need to go... hmm....

I guess you could cut a part out of the top of the barrel after it leaves the gun and put a rubber piece around it with a rubber band... kindof like a hop up chamber for an airsoft gun... and the BBs would flay farther with the hop up... hmm... ideas :D
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Unread postAuthor: spud yeti » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:08 pm

I think you should just draw a diagram of the idea, because then at least people will be able to help you. And dont worry, we'll all have this thread as a reference to whose idea it was anyways; and if its too awesome for that, you should be able to do it on your own!
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