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H2 + O2 burning cannon

Unread postAuthor: burning_water » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:27 pm

G'day everyone,
I am new to Spud files and I thought I would share my Hydroxy spud gun.
I am posting this to show everyone that water burns !!
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This was originally designed to be a tennis ball launcher, the ignition is a BBQ igniter which works fine because of the low ignition energy of Hydrogen.
At half power it launches a tennis ball at 360 kph (Measured with Go-Pro camera), any more and it obliterates the tennis ball.
Hydrogen mixture is produced with a dry cell (1.5 lpm) from water and KOH mix.

Please feel free to comment and let me know what you think !
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Re: H2 + O2 burning cannon

Unread postAuthor: Juggernaut12121 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:25 am

That muzzle blast is beautiful, welcome to spufiles! :)
What sort of generator are you using? Homemade? I've wanted to make a small one for a while but I got lazy lately
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Re: H2 + O2 burning cannon

Unread postAuthor: burning_water » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:35 pm

Hi Juggernaut12121,
Here is a link to the cell I have http://www.aliexpress.com/item/21-Plate ... 99761.html but I wouldn't recommend it because it is 304 SS instead of 316SS
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Re: H2 + O2 burning cannon

Unread postAuthor: DYI » Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:39 pm

Nice photo of the muzzle blast. And good production rate on the electrolysis rig, that's impressively cheap, even if you have to replace the plates with 316 yourself. I've considered doing this a few times, but I ended up taking the route of just renting oxygen and hydrogen tanks, mostly because my application required significantly higher supply pressure.
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Re: H2 + O2 burning cannon

Unread postAuthor: burning_water » Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:39 am

Thanks DYI,
I am glad you like it.
What sort of pressures have you been using on your setup ?
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Re: H2 + O2 burning cannon

Unread postAuthor: DYI » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:38 pm

burning_water wrote:Thanks DYI,
I am glad you like it.
What sort of pressures have you been using on your setup ?


Between 1000 and 2000psi fuel pressure with a 0.85:0.15 hydrogen/oxygen mix.
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Re: H2 + O2 burning cannon

Unread postAuthor: burning_water » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:45 am

Ok,
Ha ha...electrolyser could do it, but you would need substantial materials, eg stainless everything.
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Unread postAuthor: burning_water » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:59 am

Hi everyone
just wondering if any of you have some info on the burn rate of hydrogen oxygen mix (as produced from water), it is supposed to be 1000 times petrol ?
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Re: H2 + O2 burning cannon

Unread postAuthor: equusvenustas » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:20 pm

burning_water wrote:Hi everyone
just wondering if any of you have some info on the burn rate of hydrogen oxygen mix (as produced from water), it is supposed to be 1000 times petrol ?


Well 1000 times the flame speed of a petrol-oxygen sounds like a detonation, hydrogen has a really fast burning rate, under certain conditions it can "deflagrate" at almost 1000 m/s without really going into detonation regime, here is a paper that could be useful, several papers about hydrogen deflagration to detonation are due the Fukushima accident. :roll:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/230853690_Laminar_burning_velocities_of_hydrogen-oxygen-steam_mixtures_at_elevated_temperatures_and_pressures

These paper doesn't really give you a fixed number as reference but if you are interested in hydrogen-oxygen DDT behavior you can have a little insight about what happens regarding shock fronts and rarefaction waves when a DDT occurs
http://norosx52.nordita.org/~brandenb/docs/Liberman13.pdf

Here is a comparison of hydrogen to other common gaseous fuels used in household as heat source, there hydrogen flame speed is listed as 3.06 m/s compared to the .39m/s of methane and .45 m/s for propane, they sound too slow for me but they really don't say under what conditions, and presumably are at atmospheric pressure with air as oxidant in a stationary flame.
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/pdfs/45408.pdf
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Unread postAuthor: burning_water » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:18 pm

Thanks for the info mate, I will look into it.
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