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Unread postAuthor: hoarp001 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:59 am

Hi,

My freind Tom asked me to build him a tennis gun. I had all the stuff sent to my place, and I finished it today....

http://www.peter-hoare.co.uk/tennisgun2.jpg

http://www.peter-hoare.co.uk/tennisgun1.jpg

http://www.peter-hoare.co.uk/tennisgun3.jpg


http://www.peter-hoare.co.uk/tennisgun4.jpg
This breech is temporary. Unfortunatly teh 75mm 10bar pipe is too loose a fit. I have some 16bar on the way, but I am meeting with Tom on saturday so we want to be able to use it, so i cut a rough breech out.


I have a can of propane from a blowtorch, and I also have a screw on regulator. The chamber is just over 50cm long and 110mm wide, how much gas will I need? I intend to build metering onto this gun for tom, but at the moment we are just going to leak some gas in from the canister. How long should I open the valve for to get a good mix?[/url]
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Unread postAuthor: jimmy101 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:11 am

Looks very nice. You did a great job with the spark strip mountings. What are those grommets(?) that the screws are passing through? And what are the white caps on the outside?

Chamber volume is (Pi)(5.5cm)<sup>2</sup>(50cm) = 4750cm<sup>3</sup> (290ci). 4% is 190cm<sup>3</sup> (12ci).

A standard Benzomatic torch head supplies something in the vicinity of 20cc/sec. So about ~ 8 seconds of fuel would be a good starting point. I would unscrew the air mixer from the Benzomatic torch head and add a piece of rubber hose so you can inject the fuel deep into the chamber.

The gun is just begging for a chamber fan. A fan will help the performance more than will a meter.
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Unread postAuthor: hoarp001 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:19 am

Thanks very much, im planning to use a fan eventually.

The rubber grommits were there primarily to stop any chuffs of flame burning my/toms hands but it worked out fairly well to hold the strips up off the wall of the chamber.

I got them from B&Q, they are seals designed for taps. They callt hem rubber washers.

the little white caps are a great find, they cost £2 for a bag of 100 caps. They are great because you can put the bolt head through and snap the cap over the top.

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=17295&ts=71551



Thanks a lot for the torch advice, i will have a go with that.

Thanks.
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Unread postAuthor: jimmy101 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:09 pm

BTW, you want to remove the air mixer, not the flow control orifice from the Benzomatic torch head. Where it says "unscrew" below
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The orifice is extremely small, less than 0.01".
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Unread postAuthor: hoarp001 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:11 pm

Yeah, i got one of those torches. Thanks very much
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Unread postAuthor: dauphinoise potato » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:10 pm

That looks really nice you friend will love it. Did you get the pipe from hendersons? I'm planning on making an order there soon.
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Unread postAuthor: hoarp001 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:20 pm

the p ipe came from hendersons, but unfortunatly its 10bar, not 16 as we all thought. The fittings came from pipestock.

Are you a a spuder from the UK?

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Unread postAuthor: dauphinoise potato » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:41 pm

OOh looks ood I'll join now.
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Unread postAuthor: hoarp001 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:48 am

Heres a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTUZWqORz-Q



We shot some unopened coke cans too. They went about 100m then made a right mess when they landed 8)
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Unread postAuthor: hoarp001 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:57 am

A quick update on the tennis gun:

It fired a tennis ball about 100meters in the air and the same with an unopened coke can. I decided it needed a chamber fan, so I put a 90mm coaxial fan inside and clamped it in with four bolts.

In order to let the air in the back so the fan could clear the chamber, i decided a valve in the back would be a good idea. It seems screwing the end cap on and off takes a while caus there are so many threads. I got a 50mm thread from pipestock and welded it in with solvent weld.

Looks like this:

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Unread postAuthor: spud yeti » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:03 pm

That looks really good. Only one thing I cant establish:
you wrote:went about 100m

and then:
you wrote:It fired a tennis ball about 100ft in the air


Which is it, meters or feet, or both respectively?
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Unread postAuthor: hoarp001 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:09 pm

Opps, sorry I got my units confused. They are both meters. 100 FEET int he air is pittiful :P
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Unread postAuthor: Gepard » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:13 pm

If you didn't have the extremely-non-manly-hobby of Model Railways you wouldn't have made that mistake :P

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Unread postAuthor: hoarp001 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:22 pm

...I fail to see how that makes sense. :shock:

how come your not called himszy
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Unread postAuthor: spud yeti » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:34 pm

OK, Im sensing an inside joke here... who does railways and who doesnt? Do you know each other?
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