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| nivekatoz |
 Posted: 05/30/2008 22:55 PM Post subject: |
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| Just use copper!!! If you can..I have seen guys on youtube using it and I think its very safe. |
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| elitesniper |
| Posted: 05/30/2008 23:18 PM Post subject: |
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| nivekatoz wrote: | | Just use copper!!! If you can..I have seen guys on youtube using it and I think its very safe. |
He said for combustion, The price 4'', 3'', 2''copper would burn your wallet. |
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| magnum9987 |
| Posted: 05/31/2008 7:41 AM Post subject: |
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| Well, you could use abs, even in a pneumatic. All you'd have to do is cover the chamber with extra layers of abs connections. OF course, all it does is boot up the cost, more likely than not, though, the abs covered with connections, would be MUCH more reliable than pvc. |
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| psycix |
| Posted: 06/01/2008 5:15 AM Post subject: |
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| You mean sliding over some couplers (with the edge thingy dremeled out) ? |
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| n-strike |
| Posted: 06/01/2008 16:11 PM Post subject: |
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| I'm in Canada and I'm quite sure PVC is legal...I am pretty sure that PVC is much easier to find than ABS... |
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| TurboSuper |
| Posted: 06/01/2008 16:19 PM Post subject: |
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PVC releases harmful dust when cut, so they want to pass regulations forcing people to use ABS in Canada.
It's still very legal, though. It's not like buying a length will get you thrown in the slammer. |
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| magnum9987 |
| Posted: 06/02/2008 12:06 PM Post subject: |
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| yeah. The downside is you might as well use pvc if you're going to cover the thing with couplers |
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| Biopyro |
| Posted: 06/02/2008 12:30 PM Post subject: |
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ABS releases far more harmful fumes (to people at least) than PVC! even the relatively small amount of heating in combustion cannons produce unpleasant fumes - take a smell for yourself  |
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| starman |
| Posted: 06/02/2008 12:49 PM Post subject: |
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| n-strike wrote: | | I'm in Canada and I'm quite sure PVC is legal...I am pretty sure that PVC is much easier to find than ABS... |
ABS performs better in cold temperatures so you'll see more of it in construction in Canada for that reason. PVC however is certainly still available in Canada.
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Just how is PVC dust harmful? The very fact that PVC is used to transport drinking water tells me it's an outstandingly inert material, as far as building materials go anyway. I can see the potential for microfine PVC dust being a respiratory irritant, but certainly not saw shavings. And we are all wearing our dust masks when we sand PVC....aren't we....? |
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| TurboSuper |
| Posted: 06/02/2008 13:49 PM Post subject: |
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| starman wrote: | | n-strike wrote: | | I'm in Canada and I'm quite sure PVC is legal...I am pretty sure that PVC is much easier to find than ABS... |
ABS performs better in cold temperatures so you'll see more of it in construction in Canada for that reason. PVC however is certainly still available in Canada.
| TurboSuper wrote: | PVC releases harmful dust when cut, ...
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Just how is PVC dust harmful? The very fact that PVC is used to transport drinking water tells me it's an outstandingly inert material, as far as building materials go anyway. I can see the potential for microfine PVC dust being a respiratory irritant, but certainly not saw shavings. And we are all wearing our dust masks when we sand PVC....aren't we....? |
I don't make the rules dude, all I know is that there are certain building codes being put into place restricting it's use. PVC also releases a ton of harmful byproducts during the manufacturing process, but I don't know if ABS is any cleaner.
| Quote: | | ABS releases far more harmful fumes (to people at least) than PVC! even the relatively small amount of heating in combustion cannons produce unpleasant fumes - take a smell for yourself |
Spudding isn't taken into account when building codes are being written  |
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| magnum9987 |
| Posted: 06/02/2008 13:56 PM Post subject: |
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| On the topic of drinking water, all most ALL plastics are supposed to be used ONce, or for a small amount of time, to carry water, otherwise they release toxins into water. THat is why disposable water bottles are supposed to be used only once. In addition research is showing that pvc is toxic. I have heard nothing about Abs being toxic though. |
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| starman |
| Posted: 06/02/2008 14:28 PM Post subject: |
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| magnum9987 wrote: | | On the topic of drinking water, all most ALL plastics are supposed to be used ONce, or for a small amount of time, to carry water, otherwise they release toxins into water. THat is why disposable water bottles are supposed to be used only once. In addition research is showing that pvc is toxic. I have heard nothing about Abs being toxic though. |
Drinking water containers are PET not PVC. Also, PVC pipe is being used to carry drinking water in 10s of millions of household plumbing everyday and designed to do so for many years. Can you produce the research that shows PVC is at all "toxic"? |
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| starman |
| Posted: 06/02/2008 14:35 PM Post subject: |
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| TurboSuper wrote: | | starman wrote: |
| TurboSuper wrote: | PVC releases harmful dust when cut, ...
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Just how is PVC dust harmful? The very fact that PVC is used to transport drinking water tells me it's an outstandingly inert material, as far as building materials go anyway. I can see the potential for microfine PVC dust being a respiratory irritant, but certainly not saw shavings. And we are all wearing our dust masks when we sand PVC....aren't we....? |
I don't make the rules dude, all I know is that there are certain building codes being put into place restricting it's use. PVC also releases a ton of harmful byproducts during the manufacturing process, but I don't know if ABS is any cleaner.
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Don't get snippy, I'm just asking you to backup your statements with real research and not some greeny propoganda. So we've gone from harmful sawdust to harmful by-products during manufacturing...can you back that up in any meaningful fashion? |
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| Biopyro |
| Posted: 06/02/2008 14:37 PM Post subject: |
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Here comes the off topic train! First stop the dangers of bottled water 
The FDA is worried about chemicals like bisphenol-A being released by the breakdown of plastics into food and water. Simplest solution is just to stop drinking bottled water! Tap water is fine, and the bottles get wasted 90% of the time. I for one definitely think they should be re-used. I certainly always do, even if it's just because they're so expensive  |
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| magnum9987 |
| Posted: 06/02/2008 14:45 PM Post subject: |
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| starman wrote: | | magnum9987 wrote: | | On the topic of drinking water, all most ALL plastics are supposed to be used ONce, or for a small amount of time, to carry water, otherwise they release toxins into water. THat is why disposable water bottles are supposed to be used only once. In addition research is showing that pvc is toxic. I have heard nothing about Abs being toxic though. |
Drinking water containers are PET not PVC. Also, PVC pipe is being used to carry drinking water in 10s of millions of household plumbing everyday and designed to do so for many years. Can you produce the research that shows PVC is at all "toxic"? |
look up pvc on wikipedia and you'll see that studies indicate pvc is releasing poison. |
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