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| pat123 |
Posted: 04/19/2008 21:15 PM Post subject: another hgdt question |
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look at the chamber temperature is that right? over 3500 degrees fahrenheit
and what is chamber burnout?
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| D_Hall |
Posted: 04/19/2008 21:40 PM Post subject: |
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Yeah, propane burns hot, ya know.
Chamber burnout = The point at which all fuel/air in the chamber have burned. Note that this is NOT the same thing as all fuel/air in the entire system.... When the disc bursts, unburned fuel/air is pushed into the barrel. This fuel/air is NOT burned at the time of chamber burnout.
Now, I'll give you three guesses as to what the meaning of Bar Burnout is.
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| pat123 |
Posted: 04/19/2008 21:49 PM Post subject: |
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| can a sch 40 steel pipe handle 3500 degrees?
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| bigbob12345 |
Posted: 04/19/2008 21:55 PM Post subject: |
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Well what does everybody use to make hybrids?
And do they have problems with the heat?
The high temp happens so shortly that even pvc chambers wont be affected at all(other than the fact it may burst from the extreme pressure generated )
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| SpudFarm |
Posted: 04/20/2008 5:33 AM Post subject: |
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steel can handle the temp..
it is in a very few ms.
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| VH_man |
Posted: 04/20/2008 5:57 AM Post subject: |
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| whats with the "insulation" part? my FPS increases significantly when i insulate my chamber........... wich kind of baffles me.
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| DYI |
Posted: 04/20/2008 8:19 AM Post subject: |
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| Quote: | whats with the "insulation" part? my FPS increases significantly when i insulate my chamber........... wich kind of baffles me.
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Insulation decreases heat loss, all pressure in chamber is heat, etc...
And I'll bet that the reason the burnout messages came up is because your chamber is so ridiculously oversized in comparison to your barrel. Something to do with the fact that the gases haven't fully burned until quite a while after the projectile leaves the barrel.
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| pat123 |
Posted: 04/20/2008 9:14 AM Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | And I'll bet that the reason the burnout messages came up is because your chamber is so ridiculously oversized in comparison to your barrel. |
probably 28.5:1 c:b ratio
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| boilingleadbath |
Posted: 04/20/2008 9:19 AM Post subject: |
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| The wall never gets very hot, because the gases don't transfer heat to the wall very fast, at least compared to the rate of heat conduction inside the wall. This holds true even in plastics.
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| jimmy101 |
Posted: 04/20/2008 10:01 AM Post subject: |
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Not only do the gases transfer heat relatively slowly, but more importantly, there just isn't that much energy in the gases. Doesn't really matter how hot the gases are, the mass of the gases is so small compared to the mass of the gun that the temperature rise of the gun is minimal.
Even in a closed chamber plastic has no problem handling the heat in the combustion gases. A moderate sized PVC chamber buring 1x propane in air only heats up couple degrees C. The thin layer of PVC in actual contact with the gases gets hotter, but it still isn't hot enough to affect the plastic.
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| ilovetoblowthingsup |
Posted: 04/20/2008 18:12 PM Post subject: |
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2 things: 1) what is ignition number? number of spark gaps?
2) why is there a blue line as well? Whenever i run it i only get a red line
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