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| richardbridges |
Posted: 03/30/2007 13:07 PM Post subject: Bottom or side? |
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Wouldn't it be more effective to have the air flow in from the side than the bottom?
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| joannaardway |
Posted: 03/30/2007 14:06 PM Post subject: |
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It's much debated.
It would be nice to see someone actually build two otherwise identical vortex guns and prove it one way or the other.
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| subterranean |
Posted: 03/30/2007 14:48 PM Post subject: |
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| "noname" should be here shortly to clear things up. Acording to him the shorter the ditance the bb has to travel will allow for maximum speed to be kept.
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| noname |
Posted: 03/30/2007 18:06 PM Post subject: |
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Yep. How'd you guess?
Besides, it wouldn't work at all with "my style" of block, without the full circle.
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| Mr.Russ |
Posted: 03/30/2007 18:35 PM Post subject: |
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it probably would work, like noname said - with a full vortex circle.
Butttt it seems to be alot easier to get the air source from the bottom.
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| richardbridges |
Posted: 03/31/2007 13:25 PM Post subject: |
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| I'm not going for easy. I just got a 1/2 inch x 2 inch x 4 foot T6 aluminum bar and a Hudson 800 psi spray gun. Both free!
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| noname |
Posted: 03/31/2007 13:48 PM Post subject: |
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| Damn, I wish I was you. The normal air source works better, and it's easier. If you're not going for easy, you're going for worse performance. Just make a normal inline block.
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| zeigs spud |
Posted: 03/31/2007 14:15 PM Post subject: |
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| subterranean wrote: | | "noname" should be here shortly to clear things up. Acording to him the shorter the ditance the bb has to travel will allow for maximum speed to be kept. |
yea thats pretty much true, the less friction & shorter they have to travel the less energy they lose.
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| richardbridges |
Posted: 04/01/2007 19:04 PM Post subject: |
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What about completely eliminating the vortex so that the bbs have no surface to go around? Stick a magnet in the bottom to hold them in place in the barrel at the bottom of the feed.
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| lukemc |
Posted: 04/01/2007 19:09 PM Post subject: |
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| for one thing it is very hard to create a hopper that constantly feeds without jamming and also it is gravity feed so you would have to keep it up the whole time
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| noname |
Posted: 04/01/2007 19:37 PM Post subject: |
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| It's been done, and works so much worse than a vortex, it's unbelievable. You have to shake it to get it to feed, and then the ROF is like 5 per second, it sucks.
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| jackssmirkingrevenge |
Posted: 04/02/2007 0:11 AM Post subject: |
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| Modderxtrordanare |
Posted: 04/02/2007 1:28 AM Post subject: |
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That thread you linked to is about inlet placement on a cloud, where as richardbridges is asking about a vortex.
I would think that placing the inlet perpendicular to the barrel would be more effective [theoretically] due to less surface it must travel over.
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| jackssmirkingrevenge |
Posted: 04/02/2007 5:29 AM Post subject: |
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| Modderxtrordanare wrote: | | That thread you linked to is about inlet placement on a cloud, where as richardbridges is asking about a vortex. |
My point is that you're feeding air into what is effectively an expansion chamber at a lower rate than it's being expelled from the barrel - this remains true irrespective of what angle you're feeding the air, so simply varying the latter variable isn't really going to have any significant effect on performance.
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| richardbridges |
Posted: 04/03/2007 17:41 PM Post subject: |
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| Thank you jackssmirkingrevenge. You cleared that up for me.
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