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PostPosted: 07/19/2010 18:42 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is most likely the case. Without any configuration besides setting up IP addressing and setting a new home page, it has had no other configuration. It was used for getting the latest MS updates and AV installation. Beyond that, it has pretty much been unused since then. If I boot into it now, I am sure there are a couple months of updates waiting to be installed.
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If you want updates for XP, your gonna have to get into the MS update pages and install them manually. As for IE those will be automatic as before.

Unfortunately all browsers will all ways need their security patch's and hot fixes. On the up side the guru's are all ways writing them... Very Happy

and the world keeps turning! Laughing
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PostPosted: 07/19/2010 20:33 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I did find a big difference between XP and Ubuntu. When logged in as a user, XP will permit applications to pop up update required notifications when there is no network connection. I don't know how many times I have had to deal with those during a Power Point slideshow while traveling giving presentations. I fixed that by using Ubuntu instead and Open Office. Ubuntu delivers updates to the Admin account and not the user account.

This is really a plus for stuff that I do. Poorly timed update requests are about as welcome as unsilenced cell phones in a meeting. It is extra annoying when you are doing the presenting and you have no network connection at the time.

Requesting critical patch updates while there is no network connection at all is poor software design. Just for grins, I let it try to update once with no network connection. It was correct when it told me that it could not find a network connection.

Is there a setting in Windows to notify it that the connection is not a 24/7 connection? I get too many notifications for updates while there is no connection. I don't have that problem on other operating systems I use.
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The thing with XP is once a program is using the processor the processor doesn't want to let the program to end (back out) and when you try to run another program it causes a bottle neck effect keeping your pop ups coming.

I'll hunt down the registry sting I seen that will stop that from happening.

The last time I had XP (2008) every time I played my combat flight simulator I had to reboot my machine before the processor would let the simulator out. That and lack of security was the birth of Vista. Millenium (ME= mistake edition) was a panic release (6 month hold over) until the release of Vista.
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although you know your stuff, i am not doubting that at all on that, but as you said all other browsers are lighter or dumbed down versions of IE. if you took out all the crap you didn't need from a car (carpet, radio, speakers, back seat...) wouldn't it be lighter and thus go faster?
I argue that speed shouldn't only be a measurement of loading a web page but also ease of use and launch times. i would also say that usable features (this will differ from person to person) should also be taken into consideration when deciding the best browser

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this and
this seem to disagree
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Both of your pages simply test Java. Not all HTML contains script. My metric is the time to open my mail with photos and other HTML page views. Load times for some PDF pages, Flash Video, and Java should be part of the score. A Java speed test is pretty narrow in scope.

How well the browser handles loading a complex page and the lock-up of user control is a major frustration for me on slow to load page. A slow page should not lock out the ability to change tabs, use back, minimize or maximize a window, or scroll the partial page. At work I have been stuck with IE6 for a while. Using an alternative whenever possible is a relief.
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