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far_cry
PostPosted: 08/27/2008 5:22 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i know that air can go outside with thes high pressures from the littelest holes but liquids is not
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PostPosted: 08/27/2008 7:51 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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True enough, but I am missing your point.

Please, feel free to expand on your comment. Smile
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PostPosted: 08/27/2008 11:26 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i mean if you can get 6000 psi hpa in this monster you make . will be some leaks ?
sorry for my bad english i am from israel
and did you see my pump that i maked ? thanks to you sure
Twisted Evil and you will love the replacement of the O ring thing Twisted Evil
http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/viewtopic,p,206181.html#206181
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PostPosted: 08/27/2008 12:29 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To be totally honest, as I have not tested it past 1000psi with a gas of any sort, ... I don't know. It should not leak.

The design uses quad rings to seal the larger pieces, and now uses a teflon seal on the valve stem.

With increasing pressures, the seals actually "seal better". Smile

I do KNOW that my new valve stem and the quad rings do not leak at 850psi. (room temp CO2) Very Happy

The highest pressurized air that is available to me currently is 4500psi. I have yet to purchase a tank though.

Otherwise, I can get nitrogen at up to 6000psi locally. A really nice alternative as it will actually increase performance without increasing pressure.

These options WILL require a regulator, as I have no intention of using more than the 3000psi originally planned for.

Helium is also being considered.


Your english is not a problem. Smile

I will suggest that you expand on your comments so that people get a better idea of what you are trying to say.
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PostPosted: 08/27/2008 21:30 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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These options WILL require a regulator, as I have no intention of using more than the 3000psi originally planned for.

Helium is also being considered.


No, they WILL require a way to reduce the pressure. Do you have any idea how ludicrously expensive a regulator that could output 3kpsi anything would be? I'd suggest an adaptor and needle valve, you could probably cut costs by at least 75%, maybe more, compared to a reg.

Helium would certainly cause an improvement in performance, but would you have enough pressure to make it worthwhile? I suppose that with lighter saboted rounds, it'd make all the difference.

Best of luck with this, I hope that it doesn't develop any leaks at higher pressure (although I can almost guarantee that it will leak to some appreciable extent with helium).
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I do not believe that shot to shot consistency can be achieved with a needle valve set up. This will be necessary for accuracy.

I will need a regulator.

As you mention, the cost of such a device would be "ludicrous". Sad

Unless I build it myself. Smile
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4500 psi hpa
where you can get high pressure like this ?? air compressor thate fill diving bottle
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PostPosted: 08/28/2008 12:59 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes. Smile
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PostPosted: 10/06/2008 12:39 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Congradulations, You are now a spudfile equivalent to a celebrity! All bow down to the allmighty Gippeto!
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I rather doubt that.
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PostPosted: 10/06/2008 13:24 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dilweed wrote:
Congradulations, You are now a spudfile equivalent to a celebrity! All bow down to the allmighty Gippeto!


It was a compliment! Your gun is awesome, but i'd make only one change. MAKE A WOODEN STOCK. It would look amzing. Carve, it dye, it, and you will have not only a really powerfull launcher, but also a beautifull piece of art. Dam, im so jealous. I relly wish I had the tools to make something like that. Sigh-
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