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joannaardway
PostPosted: 09/12/2007 16:19 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@JSR: I still prefer the idea of a a shotgun to an AMR.

I suppose it varies, but take a look at Ragnarok's HEAL V1.1.
If I had to compare that to any one kind of firearm in appearance, I'd choose a shotgun of some sort, partly because the chamber looks almost as if it could be an underbarrel magazine.
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I suppose it varies, but take a look at Ragnarok's HEAL V1.1.

I took a look, and I want to see more Smile
Is it posted on spudfiles? I searched for the name but couldn't find any matching topics.
Edit: just saw the other pics of it on photobucket. Also learned what to do in case of a crab battle.


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I'm pretty sure that Ragnarok only posts on UKSGC.

That launcher looks really sweet though. What kind of pressure does he use in it?
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hehe that looks like copperhead prime on acid Very Happy
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jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
hehe that looks like copperhead prime on acid Very Happy

Not sure exactly whether that's a good thing, but it sounds impressive nonetheless.

@DYI: If he gets his act together, he can use slightly over 300 psi.

@Fnord: Take note of that Crab battle advice - it could be crucial to your survival.
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joannaardway wrote:
Not sure exactly whether that's a good thing, but it sounds impressive nonetheless.


I'm not sure either hehe

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JSR: Is that just a regular threaded schrader valve? Not high pressure rated or anything?

I'm going off to build a multi-shot version of this with a hammer valve to trigger the pilot. Wish me luck!!!
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It's a regular schrader from a bike inner tube, not threaded but set in the epoxy.

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a multi-shot version of this with a hammer valve to trigger the pilot


pilot? this is a burst disk launcher Wink
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You can make a pilot of some sort for a trigger cannon. Cant you?
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In a pressure differential type triggered burst disk cannon, the small volume of air in between the two disks is often referred to as the pilot.

I have to agree though, that a hammer valve gun is very different from a burst disk gun.

On a side note, I will give a cookie to anyone who can make a semi-auto pneumatic burst disk cannon.
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Hammer hits schrader, releasing air in pilot, moving piston backwards, releasing air in chamber to hit burst disk, break it, and propel projectile.
Got it, JSR? Wink

Or, more likely, I won't use a disk at all. But I meant the basic high pressure 6mm coaxial idea I would copy.

DYI: Free cookie please?
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No cookies for anyone until I see an real life, honest-to-God semi-auto burst disk launcher that actually works. After that, if you're able to revive me, I'll give you a cookie.

Releasing air through a slow valve so that it hits a burst disk doesn't do much, because the disk blows out before the valve is fully open. The calculations have been done to prove it (by Jimmy, I think).
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I like cookies Very Happy

Windshrike, a burst disk ruptures on firing. great for single shot performance but very inconvenient for a multi-shot design, so a piston valve is a better idea.

The only real way of having bust disk semi-auto is a cartridge, I came up with this.
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Oh. My. God. Please read my posts in this thread again please.
Did I not say that I would probably NOT be using a burst disk? Yes I did.

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Or, more likely, I won't use a disk at all. But I meant the basic high pressure 6mm coaxial idea I would copy.
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jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:

Windshrike, a burst disk ruptures on firing. great for single shot performance but very inconvenient for a multi-shot design, so a piston valve is a better idea.

The only real way of having bust disk semi-auto is a cartridge


Wow thats some really fast shooting there! So a burst disk hybrid eh. Reminds me of the tippmann C3. It also has a type of burst disk but then with a cylinder and spring. Maybe this could be the ultimate project lol. I dont have much with explosives as I noticed that air is much more controllable and safe. But these speeds are worth giving it a try.
Tippmann C3 animation:
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