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BC Pneumatics
PostPosted: 04/01/2007 21:52 PM    Post subject: "How Much CO2 do I need?" Reply with quote

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For all those people out there looking for a rough idea of how much CO2 they will need for a chamber of any given size-
Just multiply the volume of your chamber (In Cubic Inches) by the constant 0.008475 This will give you the ounces of CO2 needed at 120psi, 73*f, needed for each chamber fill.

Example:
3.14 x (1/2) x 3"id x 36"length chamber= 254.34ci x 0.008475 = 2.155oz of CO2.


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PostPosted: 04/01/2007 22:44 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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how would you calulate it for different pressures, say 250, or 100.

thanks alot though, and i could definitely use this.


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PostPosted: 04/02/2007 0:18 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ideal Gas Law
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PostPosted: 04/09/2007 9:42 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And I thought that I'd never use the stuff I learned in Chemistry class Very Happy

EDIT: I just realized, that the calculations need fixing.
It's pi*(radius of inner diameter)^2 * length of chamber = volume of chamber

NOT diameter of chamber * length of chamber

I think you knew this but you just forgot to write the equation. (254 is the volume of your example chamber, but 3*36, which equals 108, is not)

I'll delete this when it gets fixed Very Happy

Fixed it, thanks Embarassed
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PostPosted: 08/11/2007 17:48 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what if your regulator is graded in psi? is there a coefficient of expansion that you can multiply the psi by to get your final psi? (at 80 degrees)
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PostPosted: 11/04/2007 8:05 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what about if i wanted to fill to 100psi?
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PostPosted: 11/04/2007 10:14 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You would need .83x as much.
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PostPosted: 11/05/2007 14:28 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thanks, i found a 12g co2 adapter in the garge yesterday, it could be interesting to see what kind of pressures i can get in my 6mm sniper Twisted Evil also what if i want to work it out for different temperatures?
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PostPosted: 11/05/2007 15:03 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The ideal gas law again, I'm afraid.

A slightly different equation is this one:
Ounces of CO2 = Chamber volume in Cubic inches * Pressure in psi / (Temperature in Fahrenheit + 460) / 26.5

That includes temperature and pressure and gives practically the same answer.
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ahh thanks i will go and get my pencil! ok so at 10 degrees c i need 41.5oz to fill my 6mm to 250psi... which is quite alot Sad
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PostPosted: 11/05/2007 17:41 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ALIHISGREAT wrote:
ahh thanks i will go and get my pencil! ok so at 10 degrees c i need 41.5oz to fill my 6mm to 250psi... which is quite alot Sad

Wow, you have a 36.76 litre chamber.

Astounding for a 6mm sniper. I think you may have put the wrong numbers in, or mixed up the ordering of the functions. Are you sure you didn't go:
((Volume*Pressure/Fahrenheit)+460)/26.5
Rather than:
(Volume*Pressure/(Fahrenheit+460))/26.5
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So what if I had a chamber of 40 cubic inches and 12grams of liquid co2?
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148psi @ 73*F, though I have to point out that the CO2 will no longer be in liquid form at this point.

Luckily gases are very easy to work with. Half the volume (20 CU) will give you twice the pressure (300psi), and increasing the chamber to 50CU, the pressure drops to 118psi.

For further manipulation...
P1V1=P2V2, where P= pressure and V= volume.
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Thanks for the help Smile
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PostPosted: 05/16/2008 14:52 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, most of the credit goes to Clapeyron, but I'm glad I could help.
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