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| Modderxtrordanare |
 Posted: 03/29/2007 20:26 PM Post subject: |
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Blame it on the computer..  (Just kidding btw  )
But that is a nice sprinkler valve that you modded the heck out of, noname. I might just try this.
You just removed the diaphram and set your new one in and that's all it needed to be swapped? Could you explain a little more about that O-Ring you had to put in. How big was it? |
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| taterjim |
| Posted: 03/29/2007 20:35 PM Post subject: |
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I have drilled out several blowguns,however I never thought about posting anything about it,
I have never messed with the diaphragm ,that could be tricky. |
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| noname |
| Posted: 03/29/2007 20:39 PM Post subject: |
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| All I did was mod the blowgun and make my own diaphragm. I don't know how big the O-ring was, I just took the two valve body parts to the hardware store and picked the one that fit into the groove perfectly, was wide enough to stretch a tiny bit into the groove, and thick enough to seal. I have no information on the O-ring, sorry. Ace just has them in little boxes; 1" or smaller costs 25 cents, over that is 50, and the uhge 3 and 4" ones are a dollar and something cents. |
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| sharpshooter |
| Posted: 03/30/2007 11:13 AM Post subject: |
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I take it that making the rod on the blow gun smaller simply increases airflow right?
It would also seem to me that you have converted a diaphragm valve into some sort of piston. Is there much more purpose to rubber disc that to keep the coin seated in the center, over the hole in the valve??
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| rna_duelers |
| Posted: 03/30/2007 17:26 PM Post subject: |
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Were abouts it the sprinkler valve filled from?There seems like a shitlaod of air would just leak out past the diaphram if it were chamber sealing.
I did this before but i made it like a barrel sealer..AKA turned the valve around and filled from the top and as for the leak problem i got some gasket material worked a charm.But I couldnt see a huge increase in power. |
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| rna_duelers |
| Posted: 03/30/2007 17:27 PM Post subject: |
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Were abouts it the sprinkler valve filled from?There seems like a shitlaod of air would just leak out past the diaphram if it were chamber sealing.And were is the equilsation hole?Am I missing something here,if so please tell me.
I did this before but i made it like a barrel sealer..AKA turned the valve around and filled from the top and as for the leak problem i got some gasket material worked a charm.But I couldnt see a huge increase in power. |
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| noname |
| Posted: 03/30/2007 17:34 PM Post subject: |
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Filing the rod down increases airflow a bit, drilling the holes out makes it even better. The rubber disc is so that it can actually move, and it seals.
Most sprinkler valves are barrel sealers, I haven't seen any that aren't. |
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| hi |
| Posted: 04/01/2007 23:43 PM Post subject: |
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| I tried this today. My diaphram was made out of flat pvc and had some rubber on the face. I guess it was 1/2 piston 1/2 diaphram. When i pumped it up it sealed fine, but it leaked out the side because the old diapram had a built in O ring and sealed the leak. when i took out the stock diaphram i was also forced to take the O ring out too. I was wondering if I could make one by taking a inner tube from a bike tire and cut it and shape it so that it fits around the outside and cut holes where the screws go. Would that work? what else can i do to seal it up without buying O rings or epoxy/gluing it? |
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| noname |
| Posted: 04/02/2007 16:05 PM Post subject: |
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| Cutting thin rubber into a round gasket would probably work, or you can buy and O-ring for the groove that runs along the inside of the lid and valve body. |
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| landoklr250 |
| Posted: 04/05/2007 13:17 PM Post subject: |
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| So how well does the new diaphram hold air? It doesnt seem like a good seal. Im thinking about trying to do this soon. |
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| pyrogeek |
| Posted: 04/05/2007 13:59 PM Post subject: |
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| Wow, that's pretty cool. I need to try that. |
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| noname |
| Posted: 04/05/2007 17:45 PM Post subject: |
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| landoklr250 wrote: | | So how well does the new diaphram hold air? It doesnt seem like a good seal. Im thinking about trying to do this soon. |
It holds air perfectly; why wouldn't it? |
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| imjustpk |
| Posted: 04/14/2007 18:17 PM Post subject: |
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Okay I have some questions.
Do you think this would work on a sprinkler valve that had a guide rod?
All you would have to do is somply remove the rod right?
Are we sure that this increases airflow in the valve?
Also, I can undertand modding the actual valve in the blowgun, but couldn't you also drill away the inlet and outlet in the blowgun body? |
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| goathunter |
| Posted: 04/14/2007 21:27 PM Post subject: |
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| Yeah you could drill out the body but you still have to deal with the valve itself as a choke point.Exclusively drilling out the inlet and outlet would do very little. |
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| noname |
| Posted: 04/14/2007 22:13 PM Post subject: |
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1st question:
Yeah, it would most likely work.
2nd question:
Yes; it lets the diaphragm up another 1/2," which increases flow quite a bit.
3rd question:
Yes you could do that, but like goathunter said, it would be pointless unless you also drilled out the valve body itself. |
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