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| chaos |
 Posted: 05/30/2007 6:43 AM Post subject: |
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i real don't see whats so bad about stainless for this application. most electrolysis machines ive seen have either used it for the entire thing or just the electrodes. where did the idea of the use of stainless to be toxic come from? the only worry i would see is if sodium chloride or a similar catalyst with chlorine in it is used.
mild steel would corrode, not great stuff to use but it will make hydrogen. |
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| Insomniac |
| Posted: 05/31/2007 1:25 AM Post subject: |
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| Stainless steel contains chromium, which is pretty toxic. I've heard that the electrolisis dissolves it into the water. It still confuses me though, because metals cannot chemically bond with each other, so when stainless is scratched surely tiny fragments of chromium come out too. And we use stainless for cutlery so I guess there isn't THAT much chromium in it. Hmmm |
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| chaos |
| Posted: 05/31/2007 1:47 AM Post subject: |
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well yer it cant be to bad if its been done many times before and i cant find anything about it on the web about it.
im confused when you say "chemically bond"
| Quote: | | metals cannot chemically bond with each other, |
metals are bonded and when to metals bond together its called a metallic bond
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallic_bond
anyways no problems it obviously not a hazard. back on topic,
im gonna make one of these about the size of a coke can and use it on my hybrid. |
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| Insomniac |
| Posted: 05/31/2007 4:41 AM Post subject: |
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| What I mean is that when you mix two metals together, you don't get a brand new substance with completely new properties, instead you get a mixture of two metals. They are still septerate metals mixed together, no chemical reaction has taken place. Eg an alloy containing iron will be magnetic, whereas some non metallic chemicals (like hydrogen and water) change completely when chemically mixed. Hydrogen is flammable, oxygen helps things burn, a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen is highly explosive, but once the two are chemically combined become water, which is used to put out fires. |
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| chaos |
| Posted: 05/31/2007 5:26 AM Post subject: |
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| yer ok i forgot about alloys there for a sec, its k i understand and still think there is not any real hazard in place wen using it for these purpose's. |
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| Insomniac |
| Posted: 05/31/2007 6:41 AM Post subject: |
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Probably not, just don't go drinking the leftover water  |
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| jaffe |
| Posted: 07/24/2007 8:41 AM Post subject: |
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Carbon electrodes can damage for corrodation, you can overhelp the problem by solving some magnesiumcarbonate in the water. Electrodes that won't corod are the two loaddioxide plates from a LOADED car battery.
Greetings from the Dutch, Jaffe |
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