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| goathunter |
 Posted: 04/13/2007 17:05 PM Post subject: Paintball cartridge tutorial |
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Here are my shot gun loads.The half shell holds 12 rounds and the full shell holds 24. I've also pictured my grenade shell.I don't use them exclusively for paintball.Dumping a bag of Snap and Pops in the shell is fun,Marbles,rocks,and smoke grenades also work out good 
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| This is the stuff your going to need:scissors,Toliet paper roll,hot glue gun,2 paper bath cups,tape,and a piece of 1 1/2" PVC pipe 3-4" long. |
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| Get your TP roll and cut it like in the picture. |
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| This is were your pipe comes in.Take the TP role and put it inside the pipe.Size the roll to fit the pipe on ONE side then tape it on that end.On the other size sqeeze it to fit the bottom of the cup and tape it.This side will be smaller |
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| After taping the inside fill the gap on the outside with glue and press it together.You can tape it but the shell will fall apart sooner if you tape instead of glue. |
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| Cut the bottom off of the first cup.Along the line where the bottom is glued to the sides.Next take your hot glue and make a ring on the inside.Push your toilet paper roll(small side) into the cup and let it glue.The cartridge itself is done. |
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| Cut the top ring off of the second cup. Then cut the cup in half. This is the stopper to keep the paintballs in. |
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| Here it is finished.These can be used to hold anything. |
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| This is the grenade shell.All that is done is to turn a bath cup upside and tape it to the bottom of the toilet paper roll.Then cut the top ring off of the cup to fit into a 2" barrel.Finally cut the toilet paper roll in to 4 even sections. |
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| The finished cartridges.The small one is built identical to the regular cartridge only half as tall. |
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| TwitchTheAussie |
| Posted: 04/13/2007 17:58 PM Post subject: |
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| This is quite simple and efficient. Wish I could try it but my cannons are now unusable.
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| AmYisroelChai |
| Posted: 04/24/2007 16:46 PM Post subject: |
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This is brilliant! Thank you for sharing.
(Before you flame me  for calling this brilliant with a "oh i can do better. Unless you share your idea its means nothing  )
Just one question what diffrentiates the Grenade from the Mortar in how its works?
Also how effective has this been for you?
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| goathunter |
| Posted: 04/24/2007 19:09 PM Post subject: |
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The shotgun cartridges I assume are what you are calling the mortar? Well they are made to fit a 1 1/2" barrel where as the grenade shell is for a 2" barrel.The Grenade shell just holds the grenade off of the barrel wall and allows it to slide w/o dragging(falls off as it exits the barrel).If the grenade drags it will explode in the barrel.The shotgun load was designed to hold a pattern.These fall off at about 5 feet.Don't shoot anything close!
Both have been very effective the shotgun loads hold a nice tight pattern(1' spread at 75').The grenade shells are excellent I can usually get 3 shots out of one shell before it is junk.
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| AmYisroelChai |
| Posted: 04/24/2007 19:18 PM Post subject: |
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| goathunter wrote: | The shotgun cartridges I assume are what you are calling the mortar? Well they are made to fit a 1 1/2" barrel where as the grenade shell is for a 2" barrel.The Grenade shell just holds the grenade off of the barrel wall and allows it to slide w/o dragging(falls off as it exits the barrel).If the grenade drags it will explode in the barrel.The shotgun load was designed to hold a pattern.These fall off at about 5 feet.Don't shoot anything close!
Both have been very effective the shotgun loads hold a nice tight pattern(1' spread at 75').The grenade shells are excellent I can usually get 3 shots out of one shell before it is junk. |
Thank you. But what do you use for grenades - water ballons filled with ?
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| wannabie |
| Posted: 04/24/2007 19:22 PM Post subject: |
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nice idea have you tried filling the shotgun shell with BB's i wonder how well that would work against a poor defenceless can 
with the grenade shell what exactly is the grenade that you are firing?
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| goathunter |
| Posted: 04/24/2007 19:27 PM Post subject: |
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| You can use the bouncing betty commercial grenades or you can build your own(what I use).Look up how to build paintball grenades,Youtube has a vid somewhere. Look under "paintgrenade tutorial" or something of that sort. Water balloons will work but use 2 cups end to end instead of the TP roll.When you fill the ballon fill it with 2 oz. of paint.I use a big syringe to measure and fill the ballons.The down sides to balloons are that they have very little splash compared to grenades and break in transport.Of course they are way cheaper and easier to make.All in what you want.
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| AmYisroelChai |
| Posted: 04/24/2007 19:28 PM Post subject: |
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| wannabie wrote: | nice idea have you tried filling the shotgun shell with BB's i wonder how well that would work against a poor defenceless can
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I thought you said CAT.
That would have gotten you....
Anyways you know...Sorry thought Id post that before you did get flamed because someone misread like me. 
| goathunter wrote: | | You can use the bouncing betty commercial grenades or you can build your own(what I use).Look up how to build paintball grenades,Youtube has a vid somewhere. Look under "paintgrenade tutorial" or something of that sort. Water balloons will work but use 2 cups end to end instead of the TP roll.When you fill the ballon fill it with 2 oz. of paint.I use a big syringe to measure and fill the ballons.The down sides to balloons are that they have very little splash compared to grenades and break in transport.Of course they are way cheaper and easier to make.All in what you want. |
To true with commercial grenades. Its gets too expensive. I will brainstorm and make soem tests over the summer I will post results as I test. Thanks again.
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| goathunter |
| Posted: 04/24/2007 21:12 PM Post subject: |
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| Wannabie,no i haven't used BB's that would be WAY to heavy to get any speed.The tube would weigh a full pound.Nothing besides a "SWAT" sized cannon could propel the cartridge enough to do anything of consequence.
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| smiley face |
| Posted: 05/10/2007 9:28 AM Post subject: |
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| ghetto but cool ill try it
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| goathunter |
| Posted: 05/10/2007 21:17 PM Post subject: |
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| Ghetto? No,I prefer to call it recycling and improving my carbon output whatever junk
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| Posted: 05/10/2007 21:36 PM Post subject: |
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| goathunter wrote: | | Wannabie,no i haven't used BB's that would be WAY to heavy to get any speed.The tube would weigh a full pound.Nothing besides a "SWAT" sized cannon could propel the cartridge enough to do anything of consequence. |
I think he meant airsoft BBs. Metal BBs are too heavy, but biodegradeable 6mm .2 grams are light enough to do the job. I have already tested them in the new launcher I built (this will be posted once I improve the sliding barrel system).
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| marinegunman13 |
| Posted: 09/09/2007 8:36 AM Post subject: |
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Um, I know this post is old, but could you help me with a cartridge design for my cannon?
This is it:
and this is the barrel:
It just runs on cheap dollar store body spray (the #1 ingredient is butane) and the red button is a grill starter. The barrel is 1 1/2" and the muzzle is 2". could you explain a little more on how your cartridge works?
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| hubb017 |
| Posted: 09/09/2007 16:15 PM Post subject: |
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| marinegunman13 wrote: | | The barrel is 1 1/2" and the muzzle is 2". could you explain a little more on how your cartridge works? |
I generate 1.5" sabots using this same method and small dixie cups (5oz). The only thing I do different is I use construction paper instead of toilet paper rolls (takes a little more time but I don't poop enough to have a bunch of the toilet paper tubes) It works very nicely and, if the directions are followed, there should be no problem.
Something else that makes my sabots easy to use is the fact that my cannon is breech loaded and uses shells (the sabots are preloaded into the shells). Check out the BECC. My cannon is very similar.
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| marinegunman13 |
| Posted: 09/09/2007 17:06 PM Post subject: |
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| Wow, thankyou. That helped me alot.
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