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| octane89 |
Posted: 10/23/2007 10:46 AM Post subject: |
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Can someone answer this for me-
Is it possibly to have too much pilot volume? I have a 3" Tee, and the pilot volume is about the size of a 3" cap.
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| Pete Zaria |
Posted: 10/23/2007 10:53 AM Post subject: |
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| octane89 wrote: | Can someone answer this for me-
Is it possibly to have too much pilot volume? I have a 3" Tee, and the pilot volume is about the size of a 3" cap. |
Yes, too much pilot volume is a common problem. A larger pilot valve does help, though it's best to try to reduce this volume somehow, either by re-designing the valve or filling the volume with something (foam anyone?).
A picture would be helpful...
Peace,
Pete Zaria.
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| octane89 |
Posted: 10/23/2007 10:58 AM Post subject: |
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| I'll have a pic soon and better explanation, but It's a new type of sealing piston Im working on, and where the piston slides back is the pilot volume (obviously), but I don't want to restrict the flow by not having it open enough.
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| octane89 |
Posted: 10/23/2007 11:23 AM Post subject: |
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Here's a pic to help get an idea of what Im doing.
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| Here's what it looks like together. The cap and tee will be held together by a 4" coupling. |
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| Here's what I have so far. I haven't finished everything yet so so try to imagine it a bit. Hence why I did the paint drawing. |
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| jackssmirkingrevenge |
Posted: 10/23/2007 11:28 AM Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Yes, too much pilot volume is a common problem. A larger pilot valve does help, though it's best to try to reduce this volume somehow, either by re-designing the valve or filling the volume with something (foam anyone?). |
words of reason, music to my ears
Octane, the disc that seals with the barrel needs to be the same diameter as your rear disc otherwise it won't be stable and won't work.
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| octane89 |
Posted: 10/23/2007 11:33 AM Post subject: |
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| Thats something I figured when I started to make the seals. But I have that part figured I believe. I was just gonna make it the same size, but cut away some of the unnessecary sections to allow it to "flow" back easier.
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| jackssmirkingrevenge |
Posted: 10/23/2007 11:40 AM Post subject: |
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Apologies for the sh!te paintshop, but you mean like in the attachment? that would work well.
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| octane89 |
Posted: 10/23/2007 11:44 AM Post subject: |
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| Yea, essentially the same unless I cut it differently.
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| wangpushups |
Posted: 11/24/2007 11:49 AM Post subject: |
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| This helped me out a lot, thanks.
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| f.c |
Posted: 12/11/2007 22:03 PM Post subject: |
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| the coaxial design doesn't seem to be showing up just my luck considering i needed it.
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| Hawkeye |
Posted: 12/11/2007 22:29 PM Post subject: |
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| Too bad that's the only coaxial diagram on here.
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| MrCrowley |
Posted: 12/11/2007 22:39 PM Post subject: |
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| f.c wrote: | | the coaxial design doesn't seem to be showing up just my luck considering i needed it. |
The co-axial animation is working for me, your talking about the one on the front page right?
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| clide |
Posted: 12/11/2007 23:36 PM Post subject: |
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| f.c wrote: | | the coaxial design doesn't seem to be showing up just my luck considering i needed it. |
Not sure why it wouldn't be working, Try this link
Also the theory behind all of them is the same, so using another one would probably still let you learn the concept.
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| f.c |
Posted: 12/12/2007 1:52 AM Post subject: |
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| thank you. its great to see a forum where people actually help each other out spudfiles get a 10/10 in my opinion.
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| anthony5640 |
Posted: 01/12/2008 20:54 PM Post subject: |
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