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| SpudStuff |
Posted: 04/22/2006 23:24 PM Post subject: PVC Propane Meter (cheap) |
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I have heard that pvc propane meters are un safe because the propane makes them cold and there for brittle. I dont have 50 dollars to make one so i improvised.
The Parts list is as follows:
2x 1/2" sch 80 close sprinkler risers.
1x 1/2" sch 80 4 inch sprinkler riser
2x 1/2" pvc mall valves
1x 1/2" threaded pvc cap
1x 1/4" F x F x M tee
1x 1/4" pressure gauge( rated to at lease 130 psi)
2x 1/4" street elbow
1x 1/4" x 1/4 hose barb
4x 5/8" stainless steel hose clamps
1x 1/4" pressure rated hose ( try hose for hooking up tolites)
1x 1/2" x 1/4" bell reducer
1x 1/4" close nipple
1x old propane torch head
The tools needed are:
1. 1/4" pipe tap
2. ajustable wrench
3. 7/16" drill bit
4. power drill
5. lots of teflon tape
6. more teflon tape
Go From The Bottom Up
How-To By Holy S*^# Its Still Going
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| A mini Gun Style grip works great |
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| carefully, so as not to damage the threads, Thread the finished meter into the hole |
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| Tap the hole using the same method as before. Take your time. Quality Counts. |
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Locate where you want the meter on your cannon. i put mine over the electrodes to trevent shocks. Carefully drill the hole for the tap with the 7/16" bit. Always drill on a joint where the pvc is twice as thick. Take your time and get it streight. |
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Step You're Done Connect a propane tank to the forch before attaching to cahmber. make sure all valves are open except the one closest to the chamber connection. The guage should tead about 90 psi. Squirt the meter in simple green and check for bubbles(leaks) if there are any wrap the leak area more teflon. |
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Step 17 wrap the elbow in teflon and thread into the tee. |
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Step 16 wrap the hose barb in teflon and thread in to the othe street elbow. |
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Step 15 Repeat step 15 but with the hose barb |
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Step 14 push the hose onto the torch head and tighten the hose clamps |
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Step 13 Put two hose clamps on one end of the hose |
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Step 12 Cut the torch off just before the bend and use a file to bake off any rough edges |
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Step 11 Wrap the threads of the gauge with teflon and thread into the tee |
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Step 10 Wrap the male outlet of the tee in teflon and thread into the hole you tapped |
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Step 9 thread the elbow assembally onto the nipple |
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Step 8 wrap both ends of the remaining 1/2" nipple and thread into the ball valve. |
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Step 7 wrap the nipple with teflon and thread the assembally onto the 1/4 inch street elbow |
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Step 6 Thread the 1/4" nipple into the bell reducer with teflon |
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Step 5 Thread the other ball valve onto the 4" long nipple. |
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Step 4 Wrap the end of the 4 inch long nipple in teflon and thread into the other side of the ball valve |
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Step 3 Thread into the ball valve and tighten |
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Step 2 Wrap a 1/2 inch close nipple cloch wise with teflon tape and thread into the cap. then wrap the other end |
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Step 1 Drill the 1/2 inch cap with a 7/16 drill bit. Get the hole streight then with the tap thread the cap. one turn in 1/4 turn back |
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Posted: 04/22/2006 23:39 PM Post subject: |
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Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 845 144.97 Spud Bux
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sweet, im definatly going to use this on my next combustion.
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Posted: 04/22/2006 23:43 PM Post subject: |
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Nice design, but you could build the same thing with metal parts for only a few bucks more. The Lowes here in town has the metal ball valves around 1 or 2 bucks higher, but the pipe woul prolly run you a bit more than a few inches of pvc.
Nice design though, how much did it run you to build?
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Posted: 04/22/2006 23:44 PM Post subject: |
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Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 1379 128.17 Spud Bux
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make sure to use fueltool to caculate the size of the meter pipe for your cannon. Set the supply tank pressure to 90 psi, and the meter pipe size to 1/2 inch
I think it cost $9 for the body of the meter, $4 for the torch head at the local flea market, $5 for the guage, ~$10 for the rest. you can use much cheaper hose though.
So ~ $28 total
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Posted: 04/22/2006 23:47 PM Post subject: |
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| when i build these they never have enough oxygen to fire.
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Posted: 04/22/2006 23:48 PM Post subject: |
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your meter pipe is too big or you havent vented your chamber well enough
EDIT: It could be that you have too much pressure going to the meter from the tank
It could also be you dont have enough fuel
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Posted: 04/23/2006 1:30 AM Post subject: |
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Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1237 98.19 Spud Bux
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great tutorial, i like it, glad someone is taking the time to help new folks
instead of using that cap, why not just use a bushing and save a buck or two? it will be a lot easier too
and instead of that hose barb on the T, use a 1/2" male npt to a male compression fitting, so the hose screws right on without hose clamps.
my meters are similar but i only have one blowgun as a valve, whats the point of having 2 if you dont have a reg and is eyeing the guage anyways?
brass valves would look wicked
HAYLO_Stealer, try trying different psi in the meter, that should always work.
ps, nice Adidas shoe box
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Posted: 04/23/2006 1:40 AM Post subject: |
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Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 87 108.45 Spud Bux
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| i know i should look it up but a 7 inch by 3 inch chamber(mini) how big would it need to be ?
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Posted: 04/23/2006 12:29 PM Post subject: |
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I already commented on this in another post, but nice usage of the steel braided hosing. If indeed propanes highest pressure before it liquidizes is 90 psi, a 100 psi would suit this application. This also would give a greater accuracy when it comes to readings, because a 200psi gauges numbers are squished together more in a attempt to fit twice amount of numbers and lines on the same dail.
Nice tutorial. Something that newer members will use, and older members will take something from. (Im talking about myself, because the metal tubing is going on my next cannon.)
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| saladtossser |
Posted: 04/23/2006 13:30 PM Post subject: Re: PVC Propane Meter (cheap) |
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Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1237 98.19 Spud Bux
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| Holy S*^# Its Still Going wrote: | 2x 1/2" sch 80 close sprinkler risers
1x 1/2" sch 80 4 inch sprinkler riser |
what and where?
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Posted: 04/23/2006 14:20 PM Post subject: |
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| The first is found connected to the ball valves, and the second found between the two ball valves. Sprinkler risers are the same thing as nipples.
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Posted: 04/23/2006 17:28 PM Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | instead of using that cap, why not just use a bushing and save a buck or two? it will be a lot easier too |
youre right today i was worling on my chamber and it fell. the close nipple between the first ball valve and the cap broke. i had to replace the valve and i used a bushing instead
pimpmann22 is it posiple to post this in the offical section?
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Posted: 04/24/2006 20:41 PM Post subject: |
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I'm not sure why we can't, but we'd have to get express permission from PC guy - to tell the truth, there are several "junior" how-to's and such I'd like to see moved.
Rumor has it that we'll have an automated submission system in a few months or so, though, so he may not approve and we'll just have to wait.
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Posted: 04/25/2006 20:04 PM Post subject: |
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oh that works. the guage all the sudden sprung a leak on me. i would say it was a small explision because the pressure bent the thin face of the guage.
i am going to build a metal one and stock up on parts because the local plumbing store is giving a 50% discount on pvc and pvc fittings.
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Posted: 11/04/2007 18:56 PM Post subject: |
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| I wonder if you could make your entire meter out of pvc??? It would be way lighter than metal, it would look cooler, i think, and you could just pvc-weld it to the chamber with a 90 degree elbo, but how much psi could it hold? Just an idea.
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