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NatoHub
PostPosted: 06/10/2008 10:52 AM    Post subject: Quick Question (Fuels) Reply with quote

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I recently bought some starting fluid for my combustion cannon (basic cannon). It is highly flammable, but for some reason my cannon will not fire with it. I spray it in, put on the cap, and try to light it, but it rarely fires. I figured it would work better than hair spray (hair spray works well, but starting fluid is cleaner). What am I doing wrong? Is there a method?
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Quote from can: "Contains diethyl ether and petroleum hydrocarbons."
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MaxuS the 2nd
PostPosted: 06/10/2008 10:57 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sounds like your fuel:air ratio is way off.
You're either putting too much or too little into the chamber, experiment with it. When you spray it, is it a fine mist?
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PostPosted: 06/10/2008 11:02 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've tried spraying different amounts in, but somehow it's not working.
It's a pretty fine mist. I'm honestly confused, hair spray works...
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PostPosted: 06/10/2008 11:02 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MaxuS the 2nd wrote:
Sounds like your fuel:air ratio is way off.
You're either putting too much or too little into the chamber, experiment with it. When you spray it, is it a fine mist?


Yes, what max said!....probably using too much....be sure you air out your chamber between attempts.
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I've tried using just quick sprays, and I have been airing it out. I'll try using a small amount later. I know I'm not using too little, that's for sure.
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Ok, I just did a quick test.
For some reason, I spray in a small amount, put on the cap, ignite, nothing happens. But then when I take off the cap and try to ignite it, it ignites.
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PostPosted: 06/10/2008 11:19 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That means you are spraying too much, try a 1/4 second tap of spray
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PostPosted: 06/10/2008 14:44 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A rule of thumb: When your cannon doesnt fire, and your spark gap works, youve got too much fuel, not too less.
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PostPosted: 06/14/2008 21:36 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i dont know why but it wont light for me nither i guess it just dosent work
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PostPosted: 06/14/2008 22:01 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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nibbler125 wrote:
i dont know why but it wont light for me nither i guess it just dosent work


no your both just not doing it right.

other people have used it in he past to great success

i even lighted my mini with primer lol
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PostPosted: 06/14/2008 22:05 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i even lighted my mini with primer lol


Theres always stories like that where people just finished a combustion cannon, so when they go to dry fire it the newly applied glue, is still giving off flammable fumes, ignites and usually singes their eybrows.
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PostPosted: 06/15/2008 18:23 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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no your both just not doing it right.

other people have used it in he past to great success


Yeah...Which is why I'm confused. I've tried everything.
Oh well, hair spray might be worse for the cannon, but at least it works.
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PostPosted: 06/15/2008 18:56 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i even lighted my mini with primer lol


Theres always stories like that where people just finished a combustion cannon, so when they go to dry fire it the newly applied glue, is still giving off flammable fumes, ignites and usually singes their eybrows.


yes but i purposly but primer in my chamber lol
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PostPosted: 06/16/2008 14:39 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Primer, the spudder's emergency fuel Very Happy
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PostPosted: 06/16/2008 16:29 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Like frankrede said, try the shortest tap you think you can do consistently, 1/4, 1/2, ... seconds.

Blow LOTS of air through the gun between failed attempts, you need to get any "high boilers" to evaporate and exit the gun.

If you can't get it to fire with a very short spurt then move the aerosol can back from the breech of the gun a measured distance, perhaps a foot or more. It may be that the nozzle on the starter fluid can gives a much tighter spary pattern than does a hair spray nozzle. That would make sense since the starter spray is designed to get well directed into an opening that is only an inch or two across, whereas the hairspray nozzle is designed to fan out and cover a persons head.
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