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MrCrowley
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 1:01 AM    Post subject: scottcrete 101: Why he was banned Reply with quote

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You may be wondering why scottcrete was banned, i'll get to that shortly, for now I just want to outline a few things.

It appears he has asked various members to join his forum, which looks like Spudfiles with no information. (Apart from the stuff directly copied from Spudfiles, and without prior permission to do so)

It also appears (Yes, us mods know how to use the internet too) that members think scottcrete was in the right, and are helping him to spam Spudfiles some more.

Without Spudfiles, funnily enough, Scott's site would be nothing.

The topics he copies from SF without prior permission, is called plagiarism. Simple fact.


Okay, now to the good stuff.

Why was scottcrete banned, several times:

1) He originally left the forum after a discussion with me via PM. He seemed to think I was picking on him, when infact I was telling him to stop requesting stickies and stop posting so many useless topics that could be posted at Theopia.

Yes, that's right. He left the forum all by himself, what a big boy he is.

Well that was short lived, because he came back, this leads me on to number 2.

2) He then proceeded to PM many members telling them to join his forum. Ever get those annoying Viagra spam messages in your inbox? Well this guy is on the same level as Viagra spam.

This is a rule on Spudfiles, you are not allowed to spam:
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A reference to your personal website in your sig is fine, but don't link your site in every post you make. If it appears that you're abusing these forums to drive additional traffic to your site, your account may be suspended.


This first account was suspended for the nature of his spamming, and prior infractions and abusive behavior.

Then...

3) He created a new account, smart guy. Well this also is a rule:
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Don't sign up for more than one account unless you MUST, or unless instructed to do so by a moderator. Creation of multiple accounts without a valid reason may result in a ban


He then made another account (after that), which was also banned. All of which were used to spam you guys.

So going by our rule book here at Spudfiles, can't be bias now, we banned scottcrete for breaking rules all over the place that I am sure no one would argue with (who wants SPAM?).

What has scottcrete have to say for all of this you may ask?

Well our researchers have dug deep, very deep, to the land of free forums. That's right, don't pay server fees, you don't need no fancy domain name, here you can get one for free.

Anyway, we found a post of Scott's on why he thought he was banned:
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no reason at all... Just your banned from spudfiles.. i cannot even access the page


Apparently, he was banned for no reason. Oh really? And yes scott, when you get banned from a forum, generally you can no longer access the forum. The world is a funny place is it not?

This guy sounds like a perfect admin for a spudgun community, he only knows about high voltage electricity, he likes to spam people's inboxs with ads, and if you shine a light in his ear, his eyes will light up. Not to mention he doesn't know half the things about running a forum or how to make it work properly. But i'm sure he'll learn.

To backup my claims, I do have proof. I'll start and end with my first piece of evidence, the part where he chose to leave on his own accord:



We also have proof of his spam messages, but i'm sure most of you have those messages also. If scott left you out and you never received a message, he is deeply sorry and says he was banned for no apparent reason before he could get his message out to you, that or he just plain doesn't like you.

If you have any questions or queries, i'm on holiday for two weeks so don't be afraid to ask.

Just hope you understand, by scott spamming Spudfiles, he is hurting the community itself. This has gone way too far and PCGUY's time could have been spent elsewhere, such as upgrading the forum.

Also, to those members who joined so they could have mod status, I don't blame ya. But you'll always be far more respected here then at a forum where half the members run the place.


If you think we (Spudfiles) just don't want any competition, you are wrong. We are fine with it as long as they (the competition) abide to any rules we have in place. Spudcom would've been a great place for a second community if you guys were that way in mind. Smile
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jackssmirkingrevenge
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 1:20 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did he perchance register again as "flamingtaters"?
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ALIHISGREAT
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 1:30 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i PM'd PCGUY about the spammage..... but nice to see you are on to it Smile
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MrCrowley
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 1:32 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
Did he perchance register again as "flamingtaters"?

That was him alright. He knows exactly why he was banned, he is playing a political game trying to win over members.

Have you seen his site? Exactly the same as SF, same board etc. Except his logo was done in a poor fashion and he has none of the technological advancements we do.


BTW, remember that news article you linked me too. The one about the hedgehog. Well it got dismissed on lack of evidence as a witness didn't turn up. Laughing

@AHG,
Thanks, we could've put you in witness protection you know Wink
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jackssmirkingrevenge
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 2:17 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have you seen his site?


Nope, he tried to link me too it but I kept getting an error.
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Lentamentalisk
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 2:44 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I feel so unloved! He never spammed me! I was looking forward to testing out his new barrel enlarging drug or what not, but since he hasn't hit me with anything yet I'll have to stick with my normal sized barrel Crying or Very sad
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MrCrowley
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 2:48 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If scott left you out and you never received a message, he is deeply sorry and says he was banned for no apparent reason before he could get his message out to you, that or he just plain doesn't like you.
Wink Very Happy
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POLAND_SPUD
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 2:55 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think he has some personal problems...

If there are members who want to follow him let them go... it would help spudfiles in the long run
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pimpmann22
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 2:58 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good Job! Modding with balls!

Reminds me of the good ol' days...
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MrCrowley
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 3:02 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey hey, look who it is Razz

Long time no see, pimp.

I kind of feel like your protégé now Wink
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jrrdw
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 6:40 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MrCrowley wrote:
Hey hey, look who it is Razz

Long time no see, pimp.

I kind of feel like your protégé now Wink


I guess that makes me yours MrCrowley! Hahaha....

Pimpmannnnnnn22!!!!!
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Ragnarok
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 6:51 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I didn't get spammed.
I mean, I'm the 18th highest poster here, pretty knowledgeable, one of the world's more experienced spudders... and I don't get a thought. So that probably means he doesn't like me - Success!!!

I'll be honest, although he made quite a few launchers (and not particularly shabby ones), I didn't much like the somewhat derogatory tone evident in many of his posts. I'd personally expect more from someone his age, but evidently you can get older n00bs too.
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MrCrowley
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 6:59 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jrrdw wrote:
MrCrowley wrote:
Hey hey, look who it is Razz

Long time no see, pimp.

I kind of feel like your protégé now Wink


I guess that makes me yours MrCrowley! Hahaha....

I guess it does Very Happy


@Rag,

Yeah evidently you can. I wouldn't of minded so much if he hadn't tried to clone Spudfiles and it's members. I would've left him alone, but meh, stuff happens. Rolling Eyes
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XxtriviumxX
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 7:02 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I didn't get spammed either. Confused

As Ragnarok said, he did make some good cannons, especially his recent combustions which I thought where quite inspirational.

But I was quite supprised after reading those PMs to MrCrowley, I would expect more maturity from someone his age.
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Ragnarok
PostPosted: 04/18/2008 7:11 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can't much see the point in a site that is just a clone - it needs something different.

Taking everything into account, I'd say that there is very little about spudguns that between us, the joint experience of the members of Spudfiles doesn't cover.

I'd say that easily 90% of the world's really experienced spudders were probably members of this site - but I obviously don't know exactly what percentage.
I've not met many other experienced spudders, but the guy I once met who had that 15x oxy/propane bowling ball hybrid would probably count as one - given I don't think he's on this site.
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