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PCGUY
PostPosted: 02/05/2005 18:39 PM    Post subject: Semi Auto Reply with quote

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SEMI AUTO

Provided By - Clide

Deemed the "Slider" gun in reference to it's key part, the exhaust valve.

VIDEO FOUND HERE

Basically it is a fancy barrel sealing tee valve. The exhaust valve used is a homemade version of McMaster part number 4622K57. In the forward position, the input holes are connected with holes going to the chamber. In the back position, the input holes are isolated and the holes going to the chamber are exhausted to atmosphere. That means input flow is cut off in the same motion that exhaust the pilot chamber. The piston has a built in one way valve for a quick fill without harming performance. If I had a high flow air source available I could get up to .25" input flow, but currently flow is limited by the quick connect fitting. The stock can be pushed into the chamber when the gun is not in use, and I tried my best to give it a fancy paintjob. (3 days ago, waiting 7 days is impossible). I can get about 2 shots off per second. Faster ROF could probably be obtained with an electric 3 way valve instead of the slide valve, but I wanted to stay away from electronics.

Anyway, of course I needed a loading system to keep up with the gun. I decided to use paintballs because they are cheap and fit with the scale of the gun. Seems to work fine. I find paint in there sometimes, but I think it is from the 3 year old paintballs, not a problem with the loading.

Currently I just use a clip, but I am planning on getting a hopper to work.

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theexp
PostPosted: 02/06/2005 16:28 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BEAUTIFUL. Laughing I love it. I downloaded the vido of it, it is a BEAST. I like how it Killed the sheet metal. Thats awsome. Could you described in a little more detail how it works...

Nice Paint job Very Happy
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syco kilaa
PostPosted: 02/21/2005 22:42 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yes could you possibly take some time and MAKE PLANS for it? please????????? I need to make one of these but I'm not really sure what to use for materials, also, about the stock, where is the chamber itself? I mean is the space where the stock comes out of the chamber? help...
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PostPosted: 03/06/2005 3:28 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry, no exact plans. It would take a lot of time and be very difficult for anyone to do without a lathe, but if you have specific questions I can help you out. As for the parts it is pretty much all off the shelf pvc (some modified) except for some PVC rod, a couple springs, some screws, and various rubber sealing parts. Edit, and yes where the extendable stock comes out is the chamber. If I forget to extend it before pressurizing the gun it will kindly remind me by slamming into my gut.

Below is a new animation that includes the bolt and a schematic of the slide valve. They can also be purchased at McMaster, and there are often 1/8" versions on ebay.



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theexp
PostPosted: 03/09/2005 19:26 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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k thats cool, I would probaly get frustrated making it without a lathe, and just light the thing on fire.... Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad
But did you think of it yourself, I LOVE IT
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PostPosted: 06/05/2005 16:58 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you have the plans for that loading mechanism?
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PostPosted: 06/06/2005 6:26 AM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you should be able to see how it works from the diagram, and if you need plans for this you shouldnt be building it, espesially since you need a lathe to do it, custom machined parts can blow out on you if you dont know what you're doing
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PostPosted: 06/06/2005 16:16 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, I'm just wondering what size pipe/pvc rod he used there. I know what I'm doing, I'm just asking the size of the green piece in the animated diagram of the system.
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PostPosted: 06/06/2005 18:07 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sorry for the misunderstanding, i thought you wanted like detailed plans for how to make every step, just email him from his address on SGTC forums, i dont think he's registered here
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PostPosted: 06/07/2005 22:10 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The bolt is 3/4" CTS CPVC, the tee is 3/4" CTS CPVC, the outermost tube on the loading mechanism is 1" sdr21 I believe, and the threaded fitting that is in the back of it is a machined down 1" NPT x spigot adaptor. Every thing else is just random parts machined down to act like bushings. Whatever I could find to fit. Oh and the spring is from an orbit watermaster sprinkler valve.

Hope that helps
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PostPosted: 06/23/2005 21:47 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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awesome cannon
i like the loading mechanism
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Edopsys
PostPosted: 07/31/2005 14:00 PM    Post subject: Slide Reply with quote

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How are the oring grooves cut into the slide part of the valve
kudos on the sweet gun. its the only semi ive actually seen a vid for
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PostPosted: 07/31/2005 14:21 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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he used a metal lathe
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PostPosted: 09/07/2005 23:23 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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that is the sweetist thing I have evar seen keep up the good work.
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PostPosted: 09/08/2005 18:07 PM    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am truly impressed with it. You did a very good job.
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