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 Posted: 08/26/2007 21:19 PM Post subject: The Dangers of a PVC hybrid |
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Mr Vortex
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In my opinion, PVC hybrids are pretty much time bombs, just waiting to go off. This was about the 30th shot, and only at a 2x mixture, but apparently it was too much for the pipe. My friend and I believe that from the stress of the PVC expanding and contracting just a tiny bit, the pipe couldn't take it after a while and blew up. I will never make a PVC hybrid again, and I don't encourage anyone else to either. If you really want the massive power of a hybrid, spend a couple more (literally, not much more) bucks and make from steel, so you can go to extreme mixes without worrying about explosion of the cannon.
http://www.spudfiles.com/spudtech_archive/viewtopic.php?t=6095
FuzzyScorpion's hybrid blew up at a low mixture, for no apparent reason. It was all Sch 80 PVC.
Lucky13's hybrid blew up as well. It had a couple of Sch 40 fittings, but the pressure generated still should have been under the failure pressure of the parts.
It's just an added safety measure. Use steel or iron for a chamber, and you don't have to worry about any kind of explosion (except the one inside the chamber, duh). It's about the same price as Sch 80 PVC anyway, if not cheaper. You also don't have to worry about faulty solvent welds; just use about 1 foot of teflon tape for every fitting 1/2" or smaller, and silicone sealant for anything larger.
If you do make a PVC hybrid, I wouldn't advise using it at more than a 1.5x mixture for it's whole life span.
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| Posted: 08/26/2007 21:22 PM Post subject: |
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| Oh no! Is that the DevilStick?
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| Posted: 08/26/2007 21:24 PM Post subject: |
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Mr Vortex
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| What I could find of it, yes.
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| Posted: 08/26/2007 21:35 PM Post subject: |
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Major General
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ill bet that was pretty spectacular! you werent hurt were you?
i had the same thing happen to a piston valve of mine, but it obviously wasnt a hybrid, it was a valve.
i think we just have to learn that pvc simply isnt made for making cannons... sure its ok for combustions and low pressure pneumatics, but once you take it over about 150 psi then you need a steel or copper chamber. it is only plastic...
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| frankrede |
| Posted: 08/26/2007 22:08 PM Post subject: |
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ahhh scary crap right there.
So should I trash my non-remote fire- 4" all sch-80 pvc hybrid?
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| Posted: 08/26/2007 22:15 PM Post subject: |
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Mr Vortex
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| Either that or switch to remote firing, from at least 20 feet away. I'd say limit your mixture to 1.5x, or 2x occasionally. Or just use it as a 150-or-so psi burst disc gun; you'll get insane performance as it is.
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| Hotwired |
| Posted: 08/27/2007 6:42 AM Post subject: |
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Guess PVC isn't elastic enough to take the shock load of the hybrid combustion then.
Bring on the metal piping.
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| jackssmirkingrevenge |
| Posted: 08/27/2007 6:53 AM Post subject: |
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fork in hell 
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| Hailfire753 |
| Posted: 08/27/2007 7:16 AM Post subject: |
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Geez, I guess my PVC hybrid plans are a no-no then...  .... NOW WHADO I DO!?
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| noname |
| Posted: 08/27/2007 9:20 AM Post subject: |
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Mr Vortex
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You make it out of steel so you have have fun with 6x + mixtures. 
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| paaiyan |
| Posted: 08/27/2007 9:28 AM Post subject: |
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| Oh, man, that sucks. How far away were you when it blew?
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| Posted: 08/27/2007 9:37 AM Post subject: |
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Mr Vortex
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| Around 3 feet. I was standing next to the barrel though, just in front of the union. I was wondering why nothing left the barrel, and when I looked behind me the back had blown off and there were pieces all over.
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| Posted: 08/27/2007 9:53 AM Post subject: |
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| So you weren't hurt then, that's good. Good thing you weren't holding it, lol.
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| Posted: 08/27/2007 9:55 AM Post subject: |
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Mr Vortex
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| The damn thing had a 10 foot 1 1/2" barrel! How was I supposed to hold it?!?!
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| Posted: 08/27/2007 11:55 AM Post subject: |
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