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Hammer valve how to(valve+trigger part)

Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:02 pm

As somebody asked me to make a how to about using a blowgun to make a hammer valve, here it goes :)
I will make a video for it, but for now only pictures, I think all of you are able to understand it :wink:
Basically, you need a blowgun(I do mean blowgun, not these 3000 psi rated pressure washer gun, but if you have a 3000 psi blowgun that´s very cool :D ), a saw(hand or electric, as soon as it cuts metal), a drill.
I would also recommend dremel with cutting disc for metal, gloves, eye protection and mask(protects you from the cutting dust)
If you have any questions, feel free to ask
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first, cut the valve section of the blowgun
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the input hole, I used to connect it directly to my chamber, but in this tutorial, I´m going to block it with epoxy
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the output hole
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open the valve, replace the spring using a weaker one if you want(not absolutely necessary), and replace that rubber disc using a harder one, so it won´t be crashed under high pressure.
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This is the end cap, it has a o´ring to seal the valve stem, you can remove the o-ring and drill a bleed hole if you want semi or full auto (I´m trying that)
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drill a hole on the buttom of the valve body, it will be used to connected to the chamber. When finished, assemble all the parts back together and the valve is done.
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diagram about chamber+valve assemble
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cut some 1/2 tube, lenth depende the spring you are going to use. and cut 6 grooves so it fits on the end cap of the blowgun
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epoxy them, it should looks like this
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striker+spring+adjusttble end cap. striker made with a solid steel core, them covered with epoxy to match the same id as the 1/2 tube, because I need it to be relativelly air tight for semi/full auto. you could use anything you want that workes
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the trigger mecanism, all cutted from a aluminium plate, but this mecanism can be only used in single/full auto .
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the trigger mecanism housing, I just used groove aluminium. lenth dependes the size of you trigger
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finished trigger
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painted
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finished :D still needs a paint job and some fiberglass retouch
Last edited by wyz2285 on Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:53 am, edited 5 times in total.
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Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:32 am

done, but without chamber, barrel and stock because these are custom partes that depends everybody´s needs :) but if anybody want I can post these partes too.
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:40 am

Nice How-To, how is the power at 150 PSI on your gun? The flow looks low since it is a blowgun though. How is it?
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Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:50 pm

The flow is pretty good actually 8)
sorry this is not designed to use with less than 300 psi :(
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Unread postAuthor: lol » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:54 pm

wyz2285 wrote:IMG139.jpg
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Haha I am not sure I did this right but i had to point this out :lol:
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:24 pm

Nice, this is gonna help me with my hammer valve.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:04 am

Nicely done, a good example of what you can achieve with some creativity and lots of epox :) kudos!
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Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:38 am

Haha I am not sure I did this right but i had to point this out

sorry editing right now :D

@jack epoxy are good stuff :D , I find out that at 60 degree celsius the epoxy cures really nicely :P , it took only 5h instead of 3 days( says on the label of the epoxy).
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Unread postAuthor: warhead052 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:55 am

Wait, so if I were to use 100 psi what would happen? Would it still work or would it just hold the blow gun open?
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Unread postAuthor: jhalek90 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:49 pm

I built a VERY similar design(after reading this howto), the blow gun will only "stay open" if your hammer spring is to strong.

you can use a lower PSI, just dont replace the blowgun spring, and use a weaker hammer spring.

Btw, hammer valves are my new found favorite. you cant beat having multiple shots without a regulator! :roll:

On a side note, i found that the hammer spring/working pressure is quite touchy when trying to achieve full/semi auto. Doable, but touchy.

If your spring it to weak, or your pressure to great, your valve will fire once, and then "bounce" a few times. making sort of a "PHFT! phft! phhhft!" sounds.
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Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:27 am

jhalek90 wrote:I built a VERY similar design(after reading this howto), the blow gun will only "stay open" if your hammer spring is to strong.

you can use a lower PSI, just dont replace the blowgun spring, and use a weaker hammer spring.

Btw, hammer valves are my new found favorite. you cant beat having multiple shots without a regulator! :roll:

On a side note, i found that the hammer spring/working pressure is quite touchy when trying to achieve full/semi auto. Doable, but touchy.

If your spring it to weak, or your pressure to great, your valve will fire once, and then "bounce" a few times. making sort of a "PHFT! phft! phhhft!" sounds.
Aha :wink: , good for you. Forgot to mention, yes if you could get only 100 psi, use a weak blowgun, so it will stay open for more time :) , but as I was looking for a pcp airgun´s power I use a stronger blowgun to hold more pressure. And it is a good way to make multi-shot, even through not easy for semi or full auto :roll:
finished product :D
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Unread postAuthor: Brian the brain » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:32 pm

It looks like something out of a stengun..or some other WWII resistance contraption..

Cool trigger set up!
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Unread postAuthor: Major Collins » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:01 am

nice set up , with the video of the completed gun you said you get 8 shots per fill , how much psi is in a fill?
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Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:23 am

400 psi, says in the video
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Unread postAuthor: sagthegreat » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:19 pm

I still dont get how this works (Was A Noob, Still a noob)
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