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Modding the "Wrong Type" of sprinkler valve.

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Modding the "Wrong Type" of sprinkler valve.

Unread postAuthor: Pwnany » Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:53 am

I know I'm very new to this site so I don't have much respect but I think I have made something pretty neat and I should share it with this awesome place.

On the weekend I went to Bunnings (not sure if they have bunnings in USA but its a hardware store) and I bought a sprinkler valve, took it home and opened it only to realise its the wrong kind. So I made do.

Before you read this look at how to mod the good kind of sprinkler-valve and completely under-stand it. http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=305&
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Once I have opened up the valve here are the parts.
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These 2 bits go together like this.
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Here is the spring on top of the top half. (They are not glued to each other) Take note of that hole on the left with the little groove, its important.
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Here is the suction cup type thing that goes on top of the first bit that I showed you.
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ok now that I have shown you the guts of the valve I will show you how to start modding it.

Remember that hole I said to take not of, well here's why. First drill a guide hole close to the hole, basically so that your hole will end-up where mine did. (Right next to that inner circle)
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You might need to grind down the side of where the solenoid was.
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now basically screw or glue your fitting in. Try to only put it in far enough to make the end of the fitting flush with the sides if you know what I mean. Make it so that the fitting doesn't poke out on the inside. I didn't have the right kind-of fitting and the shop that I tried to get them off were selling them for $7!!! So I improvised.
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Now do as it says how to in the original modding a sprinler valve tutorial.
http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=305&

Now your done. here's my finished product.

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I hope it comes in handy.

-Pwnany
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:54 am

Sooo, how is it the wrong type of sprinkler valve? But i will say your way of wording the process will help the beginner.
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Unread postAuthor: Pwnany » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:02 am

This type of valve has the guide rod on the top half of the valve making it imposible to drill the hole in the middle because without the quide rod its screwed. :)

Quote from the original Modding a sprinkler valve thread.

Step 1: Buying the correct valve

The first thing that must be done in order to soup up a sprinkler valve is to buy the valve. There is one major thing to consider when buying a valve, does it or doesn't it have a guide rod? A guide rod is a small metal bar inside the valve that guides the diaphragm. I have found two different valves that don't have guide rods and are very simple to work with and soup up. The first valve is a Rainbird 1” inline automatic sprinkler valve. The second valve, the one pictured below and through out this how to, is a Watermaster 3/4" inline automatic sprinkler valve.


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Unread postAuthor: experament_u2 » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:59 am

i got that exact same sprinkler valve its a pope and i couldn’t figer out how to mode it so i gave up and just put it under my bed :cry:

thank u so much now i can pull it out and fix it and put it on my new ear plug gun (it shoots ear plugs) :D

oh and btw do u live in Australia if so were i live in Darwin NT :?:
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Unread postAuthor: Pwnany » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:31 am

Glad to here its use-full to you.

Yeah I'm a Aussie cept I live in QLD.

BTW nice idea to shoot ear plugs!
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Unread postAuthor: experament_u2 » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:45 am

i took 52 from my dads work because he had a hole box full and i was just looking at them and i realized the were the best shape for a bullet and are soft enough to shoot inside
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Unread postAuthor: Infernal2 » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:23 pm

Why not just pull the guide rod. Stick it back through the middle of the diaphragm. Bend it so you have two "L"s (an L on the top and bottom of the diaphragm, making a bracket). and then drill through the top?
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Unread postAuthor: rna_duelers » Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:50 pm

I have this eczact same valve.What i did wiht my guide rdo was drill it out and the guide rod hole i filled with epoxy and heated a needle in a candle and melted a little hole for the epuilization.Thats all the guide rod basicly its to help it equalize hte pressure.I off set one of my blow guns on my sprinkler valve due to the guide rod but thne i did this and never looked back and it seems to actualy have more power when i tested the offset blow gun valve with the centred one on the same cannon.
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Unread postAuthor: explsvcookie257 » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:15 pm

my 1" lawn genie had i guide rod but i pried it out and drilled a hole where it used to be and it does seal and hold air in the tanks but the diaphragm wont go up when i squeeze the blow gun trigger all the air goes out the blow gun trigger can someone help me fix this problem please :D the arrows on the sprinkler valves are facing away from the air tanks
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Unread postAuthor: Mr.Russ » Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:44 am

hey, im from south australia and i wanted to know how much you payed for this at bunnings, and is the brand pope?
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:56 am

Lots of people have done this, they just drill the hole to the side of the guide rod.
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Unread postAuthor: Mr.Russ » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:51 am

im thinking of using this valve is it worth it?

which valve is dearer?
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Unread postAuthor: medic » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:44 am

Mr.Russ wrote:im thinking of using this valve is it worth it?

which valve is dearer?


I bought this valve in Australia at bunnings for 21 dollars :p not sure if its the best or worst im using it now though
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Unread postAuthor: pimp » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:22 am

is this consider th wrong valve because i just bought this from home depot for 15 dollars. here is the link
thanks in advance[http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/jsearch/product.jsp?pn=100097873l]
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Unread postAuthor: Kenny_McCormic » Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:00 pm

http://www.spudfiles.com/spudtech_archi ... od&start=0 better idea stronger that drilling a hole in it
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