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Unread postAuthor: pneumaticcannons » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:24 am

Look at what just arrived :D
took nearly 2 weeks to get here though :roll:
For those of yous who don't know what an ATtiny is, they are essentially micro arduinos capable of executing simple programs. Now I can finally get on with this hunk of plastic and epoxy.
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Unread postAuthor: Spudrookie » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:58 pm

pneumaticcannons wrote:Apologies for the long delay in-between updates, I got distracted:
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I recently got the ignition system working 100%
I had also gotten the new and improved ejection mech working but of course, minutes before making the video, one little metal part broke deeming the entire mechanism useless. Oh well

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Pneumaticcannons, you're into RC planes too. I love building, not that much of a buyer. I also use Realflight alot.
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Unread postAuthor: pneumaticcannons » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:49 am

^ Yeah, i don't like buying much either, hence the ghetto plane. lol

Concerning this project, I've run into a problem. The solenoid which operates the piston runs from a minimum of 24v. I plan to run the ATtiny and other stuff from a 7.4v LiPo battery. Does anyone who knows a bit about electronics have a voltage step up or even a voltage doubler (I could use a 12v batt also) that they prefer? I have been looking at the MAX618 but am wondering if there is a simpler (8 pin or less) step up I could use. Thanks again.
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Unread postAuthor: evilvet » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:54 pm

voltage step up or even a voltage doubler


Any basic non-inverting 741 op-amp circuit would do, this would be a starting point for the datasheet:
http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee122/Par ... _AN-31.pdf

And a random google link that explains it a bit more:
http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/2 ... p-circuit/

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Unread postAuthor: Squidjuiceonastick » Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:06 am

sorry this may seem like a derp question but i don't think its worth making another thread about it
How whats your ignition source? in terms of your ignition circuit?
i can't get a taser and i've tried making an induction coil and i need a lot of camera's if im going to use there capacitors for a decent spark
how did you do yours?
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Unread postAuthor: pneumaticcannons » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:36 am

The young yet dedicated pneumaticcannons procedes through a 2 hour google endeavor yet still possess merely a vague understanding of op-amps
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So forgive me if I have missed something but can't op-amps only deliver as much voltage as their supply can provide? I'm looking to convert the 7.4 or 12v to 24 without a bulky 24v battery.
During my search, I found this extremely helpful tutorial on the the MC34063. I think I found my solution.

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Unread postAuthor: sagthegreat » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:00 am

you could convert 7.4 into 12, but you would loose current

so in other words gaining voltage reduces current, and vise versa
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Unread postAuthor: dewey-1 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:03 am

pneumaticcannons wrote:Concerning this project, I've run into a problem. The solenoid which operates the piston runs from a minimum of 24v.


Do you have a part number/brand of the solenoid?
The current required for actuation is needed for any design considerations.
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Unread postAuthor: pneumaticcannons » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:22 pm

Dewey- Here is the data sheet (courtesy of PS): http://content.smcetech.com/pdf/VZ1000_1002.pdf
The current consumption is about 90 mA.

sagthegreat wrote:you could convert 7.4 into 12, but you would loose current
so in other words gaining voltage reduces current, and vise versa

Yeah thats true but not a problem when you have batteries capable of providing 20+ amps with a conversion ratio of 3.3/1. The solenoid only pulls 90mA so I should have 6 or so amps to spare.
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Unread postAuthor: pneumaticcannons » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:14 am

Electronic aspect of the build is finished... only 3 months after I said it would be :lol:
TBH, I can't believe I actually got both circuit boards working. The voltage step up took me 2 tries and their were countless other things that had to be sorted out.
Although they can be tricky to get working, I highly recomend that anyone looking to build any type of gun requiring some sort of electronic control system, buys a few of these ATtinys. They have as many inputs as you need , are cheap(most importantly), and are easy to program.
Anyway, here's a video showing everything functioning properly.

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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:59 am

Very impressive
I like :D
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Unread postAuthor: pneumaticcannons » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:13 am

Thanks Poland :wink:
Now it's just a matter of finishing before the world ends
sorry I had too
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:48 pm

Very nice work :) and thank goodness puberty is making you sound less like a little girl :)
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Unread postAuthor: pneumaticcannons » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:09 am

less like

So I still sound like a little girl then?
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:26 am

Give it a couple of years :)
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