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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:02 am

well this is something i just had to tell about..

i was going to fire my hybrid today and loaded it with the 170g steel dart and sighted at a 1" steel plate - point blank.
loaded with a really thick disk and fired.

BOOM, and then i heared a CRACK and a whisteling noise from the dart flying up into the air and smack - hit the roof.

nothing much more to say other than that i am not shooting more darts at this shooting range.

whatcha think?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lDDvpyILl4[/youtube]
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Unread postAuthor: trollhameran » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:08 am

Thats some nasty damage to the shed roof you've got there :shock:
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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:12 am

the damage is to the wall, it was thrown in the air after hitting the wall and then landing on the roof. i am going to look if i can find the dart again when i am alone.

pretty nerve wrecking to discover a huge crack in the house when it was on the same wall as the people was inside of.. (i am so glad that they listened to music) :lol:
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Unread postAuthor: Hotwired » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:13 am

I think too many people don't use traps to catch ricochets.

I've had plastic, steel and lead bounce off targets that were too hard for penetration. I fire at point blank targets through a "tunnel" of fibre matting covered with brick that will guarantee to kill off the energy of anything that bounces back.

As long as it doesn't fly back at 180* of course but that's a slim enough chance to not worry about.

I started doing that after a lead slug weighing about 20g took off into the air and buried itself in the grass a second or so later. Not too far from me.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:14 am

I wouldn't have expected it to richochet from a normal impact, are you sure that your sabot supported the dart well enough for it to leave the barrel flying straight?
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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:17 am

well the case of this gun, it blast away about 4" of the ground on firing.. would have to be one heluva trap.
i did fire one shot that i filmed without a barrel (forgot to put it on) and it made a huge hole infront of the muzzle and the dart was blown through the barrel when it was not even close to the muzzle of the "union"

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@ jack: it was really tight wad of cloth around it and it was really hard to push in the breech with my fingers, so i think it hit straight...

i think it hit and bend itself against the house and then the rest followed..

i have two freeze frames with the dart in flight against the house
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Unread postAuthor: brogdenlaxmiddie » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:18 am

JSR- That's what I'm thinking. I think that something (maybe the target) wasn't level or maybe slightly tilted, so it just bounced off, as apposed to penetrating.....
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:20 am

What were you using as a sabot though?
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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:20 am

the gun is in a upp hill and the target was in a straight position. should have got up instead of to the side
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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:21 am

look at my edit jack. (the replies is pouring in :) )
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:41 am

I don't think cloth would be up to it and I'm pretty sure that the dart left the barrel at an angle, which is what caused it to ricochet.

If I may make a suggestion, try making a dart with wide fins like this (though all metal is best in your case ;) ) to stabilise it in the barrel, either that or fit a set of narrow fits towards the middle of the dart as well.
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Unread postAuthor: Gippeto » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:45 am

Just a guess here, but judging from the impact area, I think your dart just bent on impact.

Needs to be HARD. :twisted:
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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:47 am

my fins did just barely fit the barrel, i could not have any wadding on the fins since there where no space for it.

but i am not firing on steel in a while as you may unerstand :P

i will use my darts to shoot on wood with a metal plate in the middle so there is no way it can ricochet :)
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Unread postAuthor: Gunner » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:25 pm

Nice damage :D Anyway, I cant wait until I get my next rifle ready :D
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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:29 pm

this should not be inspiration, rather the opposite :D
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