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Unread postAuthor: iemand » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:57 am

I was wondering whether a deodorant can can be useful as some kind of ghetto airtank to replace the plastic bottles, all you need to do is epoxy a valve into it and you're good to go.

Has anyone ever thought about this, and does anyone know what kind of pressure it can handle before blowing up.(maybe also suitable as small combustion chambers?)
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Unread postAuthor: sniper hero » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:49 pm

not very good
they are small and it's diffecult to get it air tight and save
buy a metal bidon or how that's called in english.
it has a 3/4 female thread:D
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Unread postAuthor: iemand » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:57 pm

Deoderant cans are cheaper, and epoxy is gonna seal a lot :P
Or at least; I hope so
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Unread postAuthor: Brian the brain » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:58 pm

I´ve got one of those.They can´t hold that much pressure, but it should be okay up to 10 bar.If the bottom starts to bulge , you know it´s time to drop the pressure.

Leuk he, 3 Nederlanders op een Amerikaans forum...En gewoon allemaal Engels blijven praten.
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Unread postAuthor: sniper hero » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:01 pm

jaja moeten zij maar eens nederlands leren heh
en zo duur zijn ze niet. epoxy in nederland is zover ik weet nogal duur.
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Unread postAuthor: Brian the brain » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:07 pm

Staalplamuur of ànders injectie-anker, is redelijk betaalbaar.Maar daar moet je voor bij de vakhandel zijn.\
Gerritse Ijzerwaren op de Binckhorst heeft dat wel.
Die Injectie-anker is een epoxy in kitspuit.Wordt knalknoerterig hard.


No use explaining in English where to get materials in Holland right?

Deobus wordt een nachtmerrie, geloof me.Epoxy krimpt een heel klein beetje bij het uitharden en DUS lekt de lucht erlangs.

Injectieanker zet juist iets uit.
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Unread postAuthor: iemand » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:16 pm

Als je maar een klein beetje gebruikt dan valt het best mee...
Eigenlijk moeten we ons "eigen" forum maken :P

Anyway, how much pressure would a deoderant can handle before releasing the pressure on a violent way among some shrapnel?
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Unread postAuthor: jimmy101 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:20 pm

Don't waste your time with something like a deodorant can. The port is too small to be of any use in either a pneumatic or a combustion gun.

To make the port bigger you would have to drill and tap (or epoxy) then trust that you've got enough contact area to keep the ghetto attachment from being turned into a projectile.
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Unread postAuthor: iemand » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:25 pm

jimmy101 wrote:Don't waste your time with something like a deodorant can. The port is too small to be of any use in either a pneumatic or a combustion gun.

To make the port bigger you would have to drill and tap (or epoxy) then trust that you've got enough contact area to keep the ghetto attachment from being turned into a projectile.


That was basically the idea(drilling out the normal valve that's already in there), but imo a metal tank would be able to sustain a higher pressure then a plastic one. Still got no estimation on the pressure it would be able to handle.

Ik heb trouwens gewoon bij de doe-het-zelf een metaal epoxy gekocht(dubbele injectiespuit), die tot ong. 180 kg/cm3 kan houden.
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Unread postAuthor: sniper hero » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:35 pm

die heb ik ook thuis maar dat is ongeveer 8euro per stuk
ik zal kijke of ik dat staal plamuur kan vinden, is altijd handig
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Unread postAuthor: jimmy101 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:42 pm

iemand wrote:Still got no estimation on the pressure it would be able to handle.

Ik heb trouwens gewoon bij de doe-het-zelf een metaal epoxy gekocht(dubbele injectiespuit), die tot ong. 180 kg/cm3 kan houden.

Depends entirely on the propellant in the can. I believe many deodarants use lquid propane or liquid butane. For liquid propane propellant, the can would need to be rated to the same pressure as a Bernzomatic propane cylinder. I don't recall exact propane tank ratings but I believe they are rated about 500 PSIG. (At 150F, the temperature inside a car on a bright hot day, a propane tank will pressurize to about 330 PSIG.) I believe the safety release valve on a propane tank is supposed to start venting at between 360 and 480 PSI. For larger 20lb tanks the actual rupture pressure is usually above 1000 PSIG.

If the propellant is liquid CO2 then the can would have the same pressure rating as a paintball tank, or if the can has a safety release, it would probably be the same as the safety on a paintball tank.
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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:50 pm

I am 90%sure it will be liquid butane or propane or iso butanc eor a mixture of the three
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Unread postAuthor: psycix » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:05 pm

4 nederlanders :D

Die dubbele injectiespuit epoxy lijmen zijn erg duur. Zijn ook voor andere dingen bedoeld.

Brian, ik heb even in dat potje met staalplamuur gekeken. Dat spul is dik zeg. De 2% harder verhouding is niet echt makkelijk btw.


Wie heeft er zin om deze zomer met zn alle een spudfest te houden? :D
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Unread postAuthor: sniper hero » Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:36 am

ik wel :D
lkkr op elkaar schieten zeker 8)
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Unread postAuthor: psycix » Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:51 pm

*zucht*
Laten we het wel veilig houden, die instelling mag je thuis laten.
Op elkaar schieten doe je alleen met paintball. (ga ik binnenkort doen met mede-studenten :D)


En tegen BTB zou ik het al zeker niet willen opnemen :roll:
Zijn laatste creatie maakt gewoon ketchup van een lichaam en anders maakt ie het wel af met zijn uzi. :shock:


Maar eigenlijk zoek ik iemand die een groot stuk land heeft die ons daarop laat spelen.
Het liefst met een stopcontact in de buurt. Bij een boerderij oid. Ken je toevallig een boer die dat wel oke zou vinden?
Op eigen terrein is het gewoon legaal (pneumatisch = luchtbuks) dus dan krijgen we tenminste geen gezeik.
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