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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:21 pm

here's what wants protecting - to all you techy folk out there, sound decent?

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_ ... 55/P8H67M/

http://ark.intel.com/products/52207/Int ... _10-GHz%29

http://www.corsair.com/memory-by-produc ... 333c9.html

I'm keeping my old graphics card: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/ ... rview.aspx

for cooling I picked up this and added another fan from my old cooler: http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product ... ct_id=2923
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Unread postAuthor: Heimo » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:35 pm

Personally if the price difference is not too great for you, I would try and go for the 2500K rather than the 2400... Here is a comparison between the two. while you can see that 2500K does perform a bit better, the main reason I suggest the 2500K is because it has unlocked core multipliers...

but I think if you go with the products you listed, it will make a decent PC, ASUS makes excellent motherboards, corsair makes good memory, the cooling is decent so I think that will make a fine computer...
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:55 pm

Heimo wrote:I suggest the 2500K is because it has unlocked core multipliers...


While that sounds awesome, I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

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This setup fit pretty well in budget, but now I'm wondering if my 650W power supply can keep up...
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Unread postAuthor: Heimo » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:33 pm

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
Heimo wrote:I suggest the 2500K is because it has unlocked core multipliers...


While that sounds awesome, I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

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This setup fit pretty well in budget, but now I'm wondering if my 650W power supply can keep up...


in plain terms, unlocked core multipliers means that Intel gave you a free pass to fiddle with the CPU speed as much as you like...
it makes things like this possible...(notice the core speed, top left window)
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also I am running a 2600K and only 700W Power supply, your 650W should do fine for that PC of yours
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Unread postAuthor: evilvet » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:39 pm

Morning Jack

Don't be naif, not knowing about unlocked core multipliers is so yesterday.....................:)

What it means is that you can fiddle with the clock timing in the BIOS and "overclock" your CPU, much favored by gamers and those who relish unstable PC systems. Essentially it means you are running at red line 110%, I'm sure you can see the inevitable results from an engineering point of view.

Anyhow, back on topic.

One of the sites I manage is a drug manufacturer, lots of fine white power that loves to get into every nook and cranny of motherboards and power supplies. We have tried pretty much everything, filters, reversed fans, sealed cabinets with positive air flow, the lot. Eventually the white powder always wins.

What we use now are these http://www.umd.com.au/itd/products/senor_composer.html. They last about 18-24 months then usually develop some sort of heat related fault. Still better than our previous attempts.

For my own PC on the CNC machine in the man cave, I took your route. Mount it on the wall, as far away as possible, backup regularly including system restore points and be prepared to replace motherboards every now and then.
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Unread postAuthor: Heimo » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:56 pm

evilvet wrote:What it means is that you can fiddle with the clock timing in the BIOS and "overclock" your CPU, much favored by gamers and those who relish unstable PC systems. Essentially it means you are running at red line 110%, I'm sure you can see the inevitable results from an engineering point of view.



while this is true for the limit pushers like the one in the pic above, I must add that my previous PC that I did not care that much about, it was a 1.86GHz core 2 duo, I overclocked it to 2.8GHz and ran it at that speed for almost a year before I upgraded and passed that processor on to a friend, and I will add that it is still working 100%....
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:09 pm

Heimo wrote:in plain terms, unlocked core multipliers means that Intel gave you a free pass to fiddle with the CPU speed as much as you like...


Impressive, but I'm clearly not one to fiddle with these things ;)

also I am running a 2600K and only 700W Power supply, your 650W should do fine for that PC of yours


That's good to hear :)

What it means is that you can fiddle with the clock timing in the BIOS and "overclock" your CPU, much favored by gamers and those who relish unstable PC systems. Essentially it means you are running at red line 110%, I'm sure you can see the inevitable results from an engineering point of view.


Come on, I wasn't labouring under the impression that overclocking was reaching over your coworker's shoulder to punch in before him ;p I know what it is, bu I'd have no idea how to go about it so best leave it to the fiddlers.

The parts are currently being set up by a friend more adept with machines of this nature, I'm sure he will abuse of the dual fan to run it slightly hotter.

Eventually the white powder always wins.


I've seen enough people hugging toilet bowls to know that to be true :D

Still, if there's white powder everywhere, something's not right. Is their microniser leaking :)

For my own PC on the CNC machine in the man cave, I took your route.


That's encouraging, I think between filters and high mount it should keep for a couple of years.
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Unread postAuthor: evilvet » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:39 am

"Their microniser" is a guy called Tran, or Phong depending on the shift.
"Take a scoop, bang it against the edge them tip into the jar"
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:54 am

evilvet wrote:"Their microniser" is a guy called Tran, or Phong depending on the shift.
"Take a scoop, bang it against the edge them tip into the jar"


Not one of these then :roll:

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and I've guessing they don't use this to determine particle size either...

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By "drug manufacturer" did you mean "meth lab" :D I think powder in their PCs is the least of their problems...
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Unread postAuthor: USGF » Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:24 pm

JSR,

Initially, it ain't the dust that screws you up. It's the cutting oil mist that causes the dust n dirt to stick to everything. We got a half dozen PC's in the main CNC bay. We just buy cheap PCs and let em run till they die. Yes, back up and all that stuff.

The chips are heavy and so don't fly far in here unless Mike is running a 2"endmill through aluminum at 6000 RPM. Then you got stuff bigger than airsoft pellets flying 20 feet. It's important to keep the PCs off the ground by at least 6 inches so the dust bunnies don't attack too quickly.

BTW, we allow no grinding in our shop for those very reasons. Grinding dust is the worst offender.

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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:25 am

USGF wrote:Initially, it ain't the dust that screws you up. It's the cutting oil mist that causes the dust n dirt to stick to everything. We got a half dozen PC's in the main CNC bay. We just buy cheap PCs and let em run till they die. Yes, back up and all that stuff.


I see, in my case cutting oil is used quite sparingly so I don't think it should be much of an issue. I spent about $650 on upgrayedding (double D for a double dose of this pimpin') so I'm not too keen on "letting it die" ;)

The chips are heavy and so don't fly far in here unless Mike is running a 2"endmill through aluminum at 6000 RPM. Then you got stuff bigger than airsoft pellets flying 20 feet. It's important to keep the PCs off the ground by at least 6 inches so the dust bunnies don't attack too quickly.


Fair point, I currently just mounted it on the desktop and that's probably sufficient, no need to have it virtually airborne.

BTW, we allow no grinding in our shop for those very reasons. Grinding dust is the worst offender.


I don't have a bench grinder yet but when I do, it will be mounted in another room.

Got my PC back in the meantime and it's fantastic, in a way I'm glad it screwed up. Hope to give this dewey, I know flight sims are your thing, tried this yet? a spin when I get home, sorry lathe and mill :-/
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Unread postAuthor: Insomniac » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:27 am

Surely you could fashion a few lugs onto the PC case to suspend it mid-air... Word on the street is that you already have most of the fixtures. :wink:

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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:09 am

Hahahaha...haha...ha......hmmm...

*ahem*

Insomniac wrote:I really must start contributing to this forum and not simply using it as a way to siphon off excess smartassery...


Hear hear ;P
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Unread postAuthor: dewey-1 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:46 am

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:Got my PC back in the meantime and it's fantastic, in a way I'm glad it screwed up. Hope to give this dewey, I know flight sims are your thing, tried this yet? a spin when I get home, sorry lathe and mill :-/


Which OS; W7 32 or 64 bit, Home or Pro?
Did you set it up to be a dual boot machine?

I am more into modern aircraft like this free program.

For headtracking use this free program.

I prefer this program over another as can be seen here for FPS games.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:15 am

dewey-1 wrote:Which OS; W7 32 or 64 bit, Home or Pro?


W7 "ultimate", I suppose it's 64 bit

Did you set it up to be a dual boot machine?


I'm picturing the tower balanced on a couple of shoes but I'm quite confident that's not what you mean ;)

Do you mean it can run two different OS?

I am more into modern aircraft like this free program.

For headtracking use this free program.

I prefer this program over another as can be seen here for FPS games.


Disregarded the joys of aerial combat for this last night :D

edit: thinking of some graphics card cooling, how doesthis cheap-oh nameless model sound?

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