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Post about things you have launched or thought about launching. Also post about various materials used for building cannons. No posts about explosive projectiles!
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Unread postAuthor: Cool » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:30 pm

I know that it's been used to take down masts. But since no one have mentioned it, i though i could do, and i cant think of anything more destructive.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:20 pm

Cool wrote:and i cant think of anything more destructive.


try harder :wink: <--- that's for the Abram's 120mm main gun btw ;)

Or if we're doing most destructive guns, it doesn't get much better than this :D
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Unread postAuthor: goathunter » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:47 pm

Unforunately the nuke artillery had a habit of radiating its own crews.That's why we switched to air based stuff.But I'm sure china has some of these in one form or another.

I read somewhere that the guy who came up with ramjet ammunition also had plans for a cannon capable of launching into space.The idea was to make a cheap alternative to launch components into space.The draw back,it'd have to be up on Everest.The Yeti people/crazy monks didn't like that :D So it never went through.
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Unread postAuthor: paaiyan » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:27 pm

anatov wrote:Sorry, I wasn't aware of the limit on what you discuss. I'll only say that there is a way for a firework to damage like that, but that is all I'll say, that and that I apologize for posting that, I guess I'll have to read the rules a bit more thoroughly :roll:


It's all good man, everyone oes it once in a while. Just remember this, anything combustable used as a projectile, no no. Explosives, be it high or low order, are prohibited. But geez, you're talking about launching slugs out of a cannon for several hunder yards, how much more fun can you have?

There was that one time in Tiajuana...

Naw...
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:33 am

goathunter wrote:I read somewhere that the guy who came up with ramjet ammunition also had plans for a cannon capable of launching into space.The idea was to make a cheap alternative to launch components into space.The draw back,it'd have to be up on Everest.The Yeti people/crazy monks didn't like that :D So it never went through.


I think you're referring to the work of Dr. Gerald Bull, responsible for many outrageous gun designs such as the high altitude research project - I believe his work was cut short not by Yeti people but by the fact that he pissed off many intelligence agencies by helping the Iraqis and Chinese develop long range artillery.
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Unread postAuthor: mcraven19 » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:54 am

If it interest you, you could try to make explosive ammunition. It takes a bit more time and possibly scavenging to make bu the end result could be very interesting. This is just an idea I'm toying with so its open to any change in design. I was looking at the nail and lead design when I got this idea to make it into an explosive round. It basiclly for a tube covered at one end, filled with an explosive which could be anything from simple stike-anywhere-matche heads to nitrocellulose, and then tipped with an igniter. The idea I 'm working on right now is the match head idea. If you take the head, and just the head, of a bunch of strike anywhere matches and stuff them into a tube, cover one end and place a cylinder that fits pretty well on the other end then exert force on the cylinder so it compresses the match head, it should produce enough friction to ignite the whole thing. Just an idea.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:59 am

mcraven19 wrote:If it interest you, you could try to make explosive ammunition. It takes a bit more time and possibly scavenging to make bu the end result could be very interesting. This is just an idea I'm toying with so its open to any change in design. I was looking at the nail and lead design when I got this idea to make it into an explosive round. It basiclly for a tube covered at one end, filled with an explosive which could be anything from simple stike-anywhere-matche heads to nitrocellulose, and then tipped with an igniter. The idea I 'm working on right now is the match head idea. If you take the head, and just the head, of a bunch of strike anywhere matches and stuff them into a tube, cover one end and place a cylinder that fits pretty well on the other end then exert force on the cylinder so it compresses the match head, it should produce enough friction to ignite the whole thing. Just an idea.


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Discussion of solid propellants, explosive devices or incendiary projectiles fired specifically from a spud cannon is prohibited, and may result in a permanent banning of your account.For the purpose of this forum, these definitions will be used:
Solid propellant: Any substance containing all the chemical elements required to enable sustained combustion without the presence of additional oxidizers. This includes but is not limited to gunpowder, thermite, and many commercial and/or homemade pyrotechnic compounds.
For this purpose, nitroglycerine, though liquid, would qualify.
For this purpose, ordinary flour, though solid, would not qualify.
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Unread postAuthor: The Doktor » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:20 pm

Well I've been tinkering around with ideas for my combustion cannon, and so far I have this... Its just a plaster of paris sabot and steel rod... The plaster is still a tad bit heavier than I'd like to see, so I'm going to try a Pykrete type mixture with the plaster by adding either styrofoam or sawdust. The steel rod will of course be sharpened to a point on my final product when I go to test it... :wink:

I WILL go through some cinder block :twisted:

When I get a perfected product and some damage shots, I'll post some updates... hehehe :twisted:
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Unread postAuthor: ABshooter » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:20 pm

What is the surrounding substance? Around the rod?
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Unread postAuthor: iPaintball » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:26 pm

Unless you plan on shooting 5 feet away from your target, you should attatch some stabilizing fins to the back end of the rod, but other than that, it's a great round.
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Unread postAuthor: paaiyan » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:42 pm

That's got to be all kinds of heavy. I can't imagine that having a very high muzzle velocity at all.
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Unread postAuthor: rednecktatertosser » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:52 pm

High muzzle velocity, no. high muzzle energy, hell yes. and if you do close range damage testing then you should be golden.
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Unread postAuthor: paaiyan » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:08 pm

Close range yes, but what good is a cannon if the thing only shoots 20 feet? I would want somethign with more velocity

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Unread postAuthor: rednecktatertosser » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:12 pm

HAHAHAHA!! true, but i was just throwing that in ther, sometimes close range damage is fun.
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Unread postAuthor: paaiyan » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:14 pm

rednecktatertosser wrote:HAHAHAHA!! true, but i was just throwing that in ther, sometimes close range damage is fun.


If you're shooting a shotgun, yea. So exactly what type of cannon is that monstrosity fired from?
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