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Unread postAuthor: schmanman » Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:48 pm

what is the best penetrating ammo you have made?
the best / most damaging ammo?

I would like to hear. Image

I talk about it a little too often, so most of you probably know mine. :oops:

I will try some suggestions, and post pics (maby a vid) of the resultsImageImage

I have gotten bored of some of the ammo I normally shoot, so that's why I'm doing this.

please try to keep the weight below 8 pounds, and the sizes are 4", and 2"
(3" is broke, and 1.5" has been canabalized). have fun, happy brainstorming!Image

oh, It may not be much, but I guess the winner,(the guy with the best idea) will get 50 spudbux.

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Unread postAuthor: MisterSteve124 » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:12 pm

Ok well its pretty easy to explain but I'm bored so I drew a picture. For the 2inch barrel you could take a spare peice of 1.5 inch pvc and fill it with cement. Since 1.5inch doesn't fit perfectly in 2" pipe you could put caps on both ends and sand down the sides a little till it was a perfect fit. Or if you don't feel like doing all that sanding then just don't use caps and stick some wadding in behind it.

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Unread postAuthor: schmanman » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:15 pm

ok, sounds cool. I have done that kinda, but with a hydraulic cement filled Gatorade bottle. went through 5 sheets of plywood (35 psi). this sounds a bit more durable. I'll do it with three inch, since that would be more devastating, and fit in the 4" perfect /w/ end caps. :D
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Unread postAuthor: djt » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:22 pm

I have a friend that just duct tapes one end of a segment of pipe, fills it with cat litter (or sand, dirt, ect.) and tapes the other end up. Then you just wrap tape around it until it fits snugly into the barrel.
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Unread postAuthor: schmanman » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:23 pm

sounds like good shotgun ammo.
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Unread postAuthor: MisterSteve124 » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:25 pm

Yeah that sounds good I just thought of using it in the 2" because I don't have any 4" pipe to test how it would fit. It should be a bit stronger using pvc instead and you should add more of a point to the tip. For that you could just use a funnel or anything pointy for a mold and fill it with bondo. Then when it dries use screws to attach it on to the cap because I don't think the bondo will stick to the pvc enough.
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Unread postAuthor: experament_u2 » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:26 pm

well i pesonaly find wood cut to shape with a door hole driller and shapen the end but buy far my favorat is a bit of wadding and a hole pile of broken glass or nails they make the best ammo it tears thing into bits 8)
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Unread postAuthor: djt » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:29 pm

If you really wanna get detailed with this it might be better to go with pipe smaller than your barrel and add fins for stability and accuracy. Then just use a sabot. That would be pretty sweet to make a missile replica filled with concrete and a nice paintjob!
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Unread postAuthor: schmanman » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:30 pm

I ll just put a lag bolt through from the back of the cap. or leave it alone. I honestly don't think it would make much of a difference.

see, <a href="http://spudshot.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=114&sid=0fc839d94e9e79137150e549d64d2f6c">scroll down. the third to last post has all the good videos in it .</a>

(click the blue writing to see vids of it in action)

any other Ideas?
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Unread postAuthor: Pyro Ninja » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:46 pm

For smaller barrels you should use homemade nail darts.
They cant go straight through a hard back bodyboard
1:You get thin cardboard make a cone
2:Cut the cone so that it fits nice and snuggly in the barrel
3:Get a nail poke it though the end of the cone
4:Put a little hot glue behind the nail and wait till it drys
Its a good cheap acurate ammo :D

(sorry if thats hard to under stand)
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Unread postAuthor: MisterSteve124 » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:48 pm

You would have to make the cone pretty straight though for it to do any good.
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Unread postAuthor: Hotwired » Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:25 am

{edit} Oh dammit, I was thinking of a small bore cannon.

Nvm I'll say it anyway.

A lead cylinder tapered at one end, using a hardened steel nail as the tip and core.

You'd need a mould of some sort, some lead, a blowtorch and some very hard nails. Use short nails and keep the heads on so they don't get forced backwards on impact through the lead.


Stick a decent pressure behind that and it would demolish a brick.
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Unread postAuthor: killagorrila99 » Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:13 am

http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4126&

You really need a marble barrel for the swat gun :twisted:
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Unread postAuthor: schmanman » Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:11 am

we've got some of those billiard/pool balls, no , a lot of those in our basement! (the table we have is a cheap plastic 5-in-1 one, that Is basically used as a table, nothing more. I will try that. thanks, Killa!!

the lead cone idea is good. i would use a hardened steel rod, and an nail, and I would sharpen it. I just don't really want to deal with the fumes. I like my life, I don't really want to screw it up over ammo :lol: . I will eventually do a variation of that.

mistersteve124 wrote:You would have to make the cone pretty straight though for it to do any good.Image


not really. either way, It would go through.


hotwired wrote:Stick a decent pressure behind that and it would demolish a brick.


I will shoot at bricks. sounds fun.
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Unread postAuthor: Hotwired » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:38 am

Heres a mini diagram of what it would be like in cross section.

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I don't think it would be too good for a large bore cannon to try firing a large chunk of lead (massive recoil) :shock:
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