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Unread postAuthor: Mitchza89 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:47 pm

Urgh I've just about had enough.. Buying part after part for gun over gun but nothing goes right. You lose a key fitting in the design but you havn't the money to get another, your not thinking as your building it so you completely ruin the fitting or something just goes a little pair shaped, but althrough repairable, your agression that has built up, has been released so you go completely ape crap on the gun/fitting with a huge mallat. Anyone get this problem?
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Unread postAuthor: Marco321 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:57 pm

Yeah
I had that on the first gun i built. I spent around $300 on its development, to find i hated it. The reason i spent so much cash was because i didn't have a plan or a real idea of what i wanted.
That taught me the lesson, and is very nicely summed up by Nova when he once said to me the 4 P's, which is Proper Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance. In relation to your problem and the one i had, was basically plan the gun, talk to some members and people about it and draw up a design as comprehensively as you can. I have spent the last 2 months planning a gun. The design has changed dramatically, so in reality i saved myself alot of cash.
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Unread postAuthor: LikimysCrotchus5 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:57 pm

DEFINATELY
I was just building my first piston valve cannon. First piston, completely wrong, and needed more info. Then i tried again except it was smaller. But this also didnt work. (Piston not tight enought, and wasnt servicable). Then i built another one. This one didnt work at first and had a leak. So what i did surprisingly was put my finger down the barrel and it created a tight fit. Then that was enough pressure to push the piston to the barrel and then it sealed. but the leak was limiting how much psi i could use. So that is fixed with some epoxy so now i hope it works. But good luck for you. This gun parts costed me about almost 180 or so, but it should have costed me much less, like 50 or less.

EDIT: Wait until i post my gun, it is a over under type and the barrel and the chamber are not aligned, by alot, like 5-6 inches or so.
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Unread postAuthor: Mitchza89 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:03 pm

Damn dude, thats really gotta suck.. I couldn't tell ya the amount I've spent over the last 12 months. Would be in the area of 4-500.
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Unread postAuthor: LikimysCrotchus5 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:05 pm

Well i guess we both can learn something from Marco and his 4p's but i hope you get the gun together. At least mine works, after numerous failures. :roll:
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Unread postAuthor: Marco321 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:07 pm

Yeah i hope it comes together mate. I know exactly how you feel.

e="LikimysCrotchus5"]Well i guess we both can learn something from Marco and his 4p's but i hope you get the gun together. At least mine works, after numerous failures. :roll:[/quote]

Well its actually Novacastarians 4 P's :P
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Unread postAuthor: PVC Arsenal 17 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:10 pm

On my Omega project, I payed $20 for a tee and fucked it up while boring it out in my drill press.

Needless to say I started yelling and throwing it at things; it broke more.

Moral: crap happens. Have toilet paper handy.
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Unread postAuthor: LikimysCrotchus5 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:15 pm

Well... you get the point Marco :D
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Unread postAuthor: Mitchza89 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:17 pm

Man that sounds like me. I payed 45 bucks for a sprinker valve off ebay. I thought I would stick the schrader in the body of it. Silly me wasn't thinking when I tried. I put the drill through through the main body of it and completely fooked it.
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Unread postAuthor: PVC Arsenal 17 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:20 pm

Mitchza89 wrote:Man that sounds like me. I payed 45 bucks for a sprinker valve off ebay. I thought I would stick the schrader in the body of it. Silly me wasn't thinking when I tried. I put the drill through through the main body of it and completely fooked it.



What kind of valve? I mod big valves if you need any help.

Did you drill a big hole? If not just plug it real good with JB Weld or other epoxy.

And btw: you CAN put fill valves directly into most sprinklers, as long as they can be filled from the chamber port.
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Unread postAuthor: LikimysCrotchus5 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:21 pm

Isnt that 6p's though?
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Unread postAuthor: Mitchza89 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:22 pm

Yeah I tried making an expoxy plug... Didn't work haha but not to worry. It was a huuuge learning curve I tell ya.
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Unread postAuthor: knappengineering » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:30 pm

Yeah, I've had my moments too. Especially since i've been working on piston guns recently and I've spent a lot of $$$ on three guns that haven't worked yet. :( but getting a new air tank got me excited for spudding again! :D i might try a diaphragm gun next, I was inspired by th3p0p0 :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: Mitchza89 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:33 pm

Well I still plan on building one more gun, My 8mm 300psi rifle. After that, I'm gonna call it quits untill I move to Macleay Island (there is 70 acres of vacant bush next to me over there so Im gonna make a target range and make a 300psi all metal piston valve marble gun :D)
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Unread postAuthor: th3p0p0 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:39 pm

hehehehehe thanks dude. but yes i have went nutts on the gun i just posted. when i was gluing the barrel in i sneezed and with my hand i hit the primer can it went all over my gun i was SO pissed off :evil: . but then i thought im going to paint it any way :lol: then i felt dumb for how mad i got. then about 4 months ago i went lowes and got 95$ worth in parts. and to make a long story short i glued sum parts together wrong and well once i saw what i did it was to late. so thats was 95$ down the crapper.
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