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Unread postAuthor: windshrike » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:58 pm

Culture or not, if your tale of his father telling him that he wasn't mad and then beating him was accurate and it didn't become accidentally biased in your head between when it occurred and when you posted it, that is enough. For it to be a cultural thing it should be punishment, not wanton violence.
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Unread postAuthor: thespeedycicada » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:08 pm

no i am not exaggerating.His dad could have fooled me that he wasnt mad the way he sounded but the fact that he had to deceit his own child to get him to come is absolutely mad if his dad said something like "get down here how dare you not listen to me!!" i wouldn't be as mortified as i am now close but not as much.
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:15 pm

You should inform the police immediately. This is really serious, and the police need to be told, regardless of what your parents say.
Different culture or not, they have to adhere to the laws of whatever country, and outright assault does not adhere.

Report it, trust me. I've known people who've been subjected to domestic violence, and it destroys them.

Against the destruction of a kid's entire life, any punishment your parents might levy is nothing.
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Unread postAuthor: windshrike » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:17 pm

My only fear is that they might not lose custody; or that he is swallowed up by a bad foster care system(I'm in Florida and it............well, it's pretty bad here, I know a kid who was once in it).
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Unread postAuthor: thespeedycicada » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:22 pm

I am in florida as well thanks for the warning is their any way me and my family can chose were he goes if it gets that far and i really just want the child service to come in and supervise and tell the family how bad this is and inforce it.
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Unread postAuthor: paaiyan » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:23 pm

You will have no control over the situation once you start the process. If he's taken away from his parents, DHS is in control. Your only responsibilities the entire time are to initiate the process, and be a friend throughout it.
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Unread postAuthor: thespeedycicada » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:32 pm

This is insane i just dont know what to do i cant make these decisions myself i might have to actually use the school counselor helping the kid is one thing but totally redoing his life and acording to windshrike possibly screwing it up more i just dont know i could very well determine how this child turns out in life and that is far to much for me i need more info and research to even start to take some serious action and im not a bad person for that just understand my position.
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Unread postAuthor: paaiyan » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:34 pm

I understand completely. Take time in making your decision. Even though it's a serious situation now, as long as it's relatively stable, you have some room to work with. Talk to the counselor, just don't use names. Call DHS and ask them how it works.
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Unread postAuthor: TwitchTheAussie » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:22 am

My honest opinion. The only way to sort pr!cks like this out is a taste of their own medicine. I went through the same thing and it wasnt til my mates beat my step dad n I moved out did things change for me.
Mate all I can say is do your best to get this kid safe and happy and away from his father. Do whatever it takes.
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Unread postAuthor: Novacastrian » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:59 am

TwitchTheAussie wrote:My honest opinion. The only way to sort pr!cks like this out is a taste of their own medicine. I went through the same thing and it wasnt til my mates beat my step dad n I moved out did things change for me.
Mate all I can say is do your best to get this kid safe and happy and away from his father. Do whatever it takes.


Only just saw this thread, i must agree with twitch.
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:44 am

Well if you where to email one of your Spudfile friends with the parents name, boys name address and all the important info, i bet that important info could be copied and pasted to a different email then sent to the rite place, no one would know who did what they did to get the situation looked at by the proper agency.

I guess thats the locksmith in me out thinking the sneekthief again, as a member of the sercurity industry, i kinda have a habit of coming up with these things!
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Unread postAuthor: psycix » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:43 am

Firstly, you should confirm there is something real going on.
Maybe his dad was just angry because he had a good reason and there is no speak of domestic abuse.
You could try to ask questions to him in some gentle way that he feels comfortable with it, because if hes not, he will probably shut and dont tell anything about it.

If it is confirmed,

You could get help by anonymouse phone organisations who can give anonymouse help to the situation once you tell your problem. (Im not from US but I've heard the name DHS around here and I recommend you to call)

Secondly, I recommend to report it to the police or some child-protecting organisation. If you want to help him you will have to call in that help, -anonymousely if possible.
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Unread postAuthor: Fnord » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:17 pm

My honest opinion. The only way to sort pr!cks like this out is a taste of their own medicine.


Which he will get in prison.

Everyone here seems to be giving good advice, which you should follow if possible. I hope this situation gets resolved quickly... are you going to keep us updated?

Honestly, I hope nothing like this ever happens around me. I'd probably be in jail within a month for taking the guy's face off with a shotgun. Stuff like that pisses me off to no end.
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Unread postAuthor: singularity » Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:41 pm

there is one thing you need to remember, you need solid evidence that something is going on. if you don't have solid evidence the cops will show up and wont be able to do anything about it. but there is a high probability that the kid gets beaten even worse just cause the cops were asking questions.
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Unread postAuthor: thespeedycicada » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:00 pm

i took him on the trampoline again and the kid says he doesent want to jump on his back because its "sore" and that really means "my dad whupped me so hard it hurts" this isn't the first time he refused to go on his back so it must be a connection i have also alerted the school he goes to to be watchful and make sure to look for emotional swings etc.

@physics his dad was not just mad as he kept his cool until the kid responded also today he walked passed his dad putting up holiday lights and almost stepped on some his dad said in a creepy voice you step on these im gonna whack you.

I think i will go with your plan jrrdw sounds good but i need more evidence pics or a sound recording something like that first if and when i am able to do that which one of you guys would be able to send the info for me?
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