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Unread postAuthor: pizlo » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:19 pm

Other people have fueled genocides, though not on as large a scale, I think the reason Hitler is so hated for it is he was in a war against America, and Also it was Jews. America loves Jews. If you donate to American colleges you get a tax refund, but the only university outside of the U.S. that is on the tax refund list is in Israel. And look at who we supported in Palistine, and where does most of Isreal's military funding come from? Thats why I am not surprised by Terrorism against the U.S. The Muslims (and others) are still in a very warlike relationship with the Jews, and the U.S. is clearly on Isreal's side.

Wow I can sidetrack a lot.
And don't get me wrong I like Jews too, how can you not love those cute little caps? :P
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Unread postAuthor: Sergeant Dotson » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:24 pm

Lol. I have nothing against Jews. I think it's just the fact of killing that shocked, no matter what race. :idea:
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Unread postAuthor: ShowNoMercy » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:26 pm

The killing of jews during WW2 had little or nothing to do with America fighting or entering the war. In fact it wasn't until later in the war was the true extent of the extermination discovered. Hitler is portrayed as a man who hated jews, but I beg to differ, I think he used that as a ladder to raise himself to power. Granted he may have truly hated jews but by using them as a scapegoat and believe it or not a general dislike of jews existed in europe way before the war, he was able to unite Germany and rise from the ashes of Versailles into a world superpower in a short time.


Edit; I think for a leader to become like a Hitler he must gather the support of the masses and mislead them into a flame front of blind trust. And then use a race or something to target and maintain fear throughout the country. Taking on the world is a sidenote.
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Unread postAuthor: pizlo » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:28 pm

Your right America only had rumors of the camps before they actually marched into Germany. I saw The War, what a show.
An yeah a common enemy is a great advantage, Greeks and Persians, need I say more?
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Unread postAuthor: Sergeant Dotson » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:32 pm

You all are both right in my view. Since the time Hitler was temporalily blind from a toxic gas and heard they lost WWWI, he hated the ALLIES. So as vengeance, he did whatever it took to gain power and control.
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Unread postAuthor: ShowNoMercy » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:34 pm

But I think humans have it in their nature to mess things up, look at the slave trade, westernation of both the asias and middle east. Although they werent genocides, look what came about from them. Millions of Africans stripped from their homes and shipped to the Americas to be slaves, corruption of ancient cultures and the new rise of hatred of the intruders. So although this hasn't been a set in stone genocide many have died in the causes spawned from this mix up of world cultures.
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Unread postAuthor: Sergeant Dotson » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:35 pm

Exactly my point.
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Unread postAuthor: ShowNoMercy » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:38 pm

And Hitler I don't think hated the allies, I think he was more angry at the leadership of Germany and the class system ruling at the time.
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Unread postAuthor: pizlo » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:39 pm

You know Jews aren't that excepting themselves, Hitler was one German leader and people [female doggy] all the time about him hating people who were different, check this, I know it has no relevance
to any Jewish people lout there. And this is only one mans opinion, but he is a leader.
""We are looking for earthly solutions, how to prevent them," he said. "I have another way to prevent earthquakes. The Gemara says that one of the reasons earthquakes happen - which the Knesset (parliament) legitimises - is homosexuality.

"God says you shake your genitals where you are not supposed to and I will shake my world in order to wake you up," he added. "

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/21/wgays121.xml
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Unread postAuthor: Sergeant Dotson » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:40 pm

I think I worded something wrong because I meant that Hitler was angry that all the countries in WWI bullied Germany and they couldn't do anything.
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Unread postAuthor: ShowNoMercy » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:40 pm

Every race/religion has some scapegoat, its just recently in history that they have needed to be politically correct.

Edit: thats what happens when you lose the war.
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Unread postAuthor: Jared Haehnel » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:41 pm

Hmmm..amazing so of the loaded quesitons that are often asked on this site...

Adolph Hitler was an amazing man. I do not condone his actions one bit however lets take at look a him. Profile him if you will...

He was jailed for his anti-semtic remarks (If I remeber right) and wrote a best seller Mien Kempf (My Life)

He was a charismatic leader who took a war torn Germany from shambles into a superpower in less then ten years...

Which includes revitlizing the bankrupt economy...

Riasing a strong millitary with new tactics that world had never seen...

He was an amazing insperational speaker...

Inspiring national unity...

Rebilt a worn torn Germany...

He managed to convince a whole nation that Jews were to blame for the losing of the first world war... enough to convince people that mass geonicide was in order...

(Please also note that. Jews were general disliked all over the world before World War 2. Please I mean no offense. That it just the facts)

He lead a nation to complete dominance of the europe for pretty near four years...

He did this all before the ripe old age of forty five...tell me he went from an average Joe to a dictator of a superpower, how many world leaders have done this? Its a pretty select group.

I can't tell you want makes a Hilter, a Hitler... however as for leaders he was one of the greats. It is too bad he used his talents for evil instead of good. Could you imagine how history would have changed had Hilter became a president progressed world peace?
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Unread postAuthor: pizlo » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:42 pm

ShowNoMercy wrote:Every race/religion has some scapegoat, its just recently in history that they have needed to be politically correct.

Yeah, so what Hitler did was REALLY wrong, but the larger problem was his timing. It would be much worse if he tried it today.
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Unread postAuthor: ShowNoMercy » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:45 pm

I don't see why it would be any different. The world continues to sit back and watch as Africa rips itself apart, killing millions in ethic wars. And whys that? because they have nothing of value for us to gain. Also look at Cambodia, that was only 30 years ago and millions were killed then too. The world is still the same oblivious until it hits you place.
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Unread postAuthor: Sergeant Dotson » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:48 pm

I agree with that.
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