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Unread postAuthor: MaxuS the 2nd » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:58 pm

Hey everyone,

I've just sent in my application for a Section 1 Firearms License (FAC) and I've had my eye on a few centre-fire rifles, but one that really stuck out to be was the CZ 452 Style (It's just like the CZ 452 American in every other way apart from the stock).

http://www.czub.cz/index.php?p=32&idp=2&ids=8&idz=25&lang=en

I was just wondering if anyone here has ever owned or fired this rifle or the CZ 452 American because I was really interested in real, unbiased views.

Or if you know of a very good .22LR centre-fire rifle then please let me know.

Thankyou in advance,

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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:08 pm

Best of luck with the application.
Have you any particular plans for the rifle? Hunting, pest control, target shooting?

By the way:
Or if you know of a very good .22LR centre-fire rifle then please let me know

Is there meant to be an "or" in there? :?
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Unread postAuthor: MaxuS the 2nd » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:41 pm

Nope, .22LR is the caliber.

Thanks Rag, I already have a Shotgun Certificate and the land has been approved for that. We're in a wooded area with no immediate neighbours, no main roads and quite uneven landscaping such as one side of our ditch is much higher than the other (this will help act as a backstop). So i see no reason why I would be refused.

The rifle is meant for pest control of vermin such as Rabbits, Squirrels (my sworn enemy) Rats, and any Wood Pigeons or Magpies that happen to be ground feeding at the time. The reason for wanting a centre-fire rifle over a shotgun is that the range of a shotgun just really isn't far enough to humanely dispatch the quarry. Sometimes I have got quite frustrated as a rabbit will be sitting 20 yards further than the effective range of the shotgun and stalking really just isn't possible (open ground).
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:54 pm

MaxuS the 2nd wrote:Nope, .22LR is the caliber.

...but .22LR is a rimfire round... :?

The reason for wanting a centre-fire rifle over a shotgun is that the range of a shotgun just really isn't far enough to humanely dispatch the quarry. Sometimes I have got quite frustrated as a rabbit will be sitting 20 yards further than the effective range of the shotgun and stalking really just isn't possible (open ground).

Good point.

I'm not really much of a hunter myself, although I have taken a few squirrels and rats with my air rifle when they've appeared in the garden - they've got to be dealt with, and it's less indiscriminate than poison.
Powder burners are hardly appropriate or possible here, as I live in a suburban area - there's little chance of me ever getting lucky enough to get an FAC, at least for the foreseeable future.

Anyway, good shooting to you.
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Unread postAuthor: MaxuS the 2nd » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:01 pm

Must be a mistake on their end then.
The gun is labelled a Centre-fire Rifle but the caliber is labelled as .22LR.

Thanks Rag, I'll let you know how it turns out.
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Unread postAuthor: pocket » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:45 pm

i own 2 .22s one is a savage FVT target rifle i would recommend that to anyone the other is a single shot cooey that was used as a training rifle for Canadian armed forces back in WW2 it was a beautiful rifle but it is almost done. your standard 12g with 4 shot for rabbits will hit 20 yards with a confirmed kill but stay away from center-fire rifles if you are in a wooded area your shot gun will probaly be better for birds since u cant shoot in the air with it (u should KNOW that already though) good luck and hopefully u can join the hunting community with your new toy! :D
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:54 pm

I fired one of these, very sweet little rifle especially for the money. In general CZ make quality weapons at affordable prices, I would say it's an excellent choice.
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:56 pm

Ooh, it's got the JSR seal of approval.

That either means it's teh awesum, or it'll make a farting noise and jam. :D
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:03 pm

Ragnarok wrote:That either means it's teh awesum, or it'll make a farting noise and jam. :D


If it was a JSR-452, the latter would be guaranteed ;) :P
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Unread postAuthor: MaxuS the 2nd » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:53 am

pocket wrote:your standard 12g with 4 shot for rabbits will hit 20 yards with a confirmed kill but stay away from center-fire rifles if you are in a wooded area your shot gun will probaly be better for birds since u cant shoot in the air with it


Standard 12g with 4 shot?
I'm currently using 32g with 5 shot, I've had a perfect kill at 60 yards but that's really pushing it a little.

It's half wooded and half open ground. The small woodland is ours so there's no chance of someone being in there whilst shooting.

Ahh good, thanks guys. When I first saw it, I fell in love with it instantly.

Will let you know how it goes,

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Unread postAuthor: THUNDERLORD » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:27 am

Just noticed this thread.
I was working for a gun store that had a great selection and I remember the CZ(?#).
But it was a semi-auto model in .22 WMRF (.22magnum, slightly longer rimfire).
Very similar to the bolt actions on their web-page.
It was impressive. The wood was nice, the metal was smooth and it had a very classic feel/look. Like JSR mentioned, reasonably priced too. 8)
EDIT: The one I mentioned might have been made by BRNO but also stamped CZ (They're affiliates) sure looked the same though.(While ago).
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Unread postAuthor: MaxuS the 2nd » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:59 am

Yeah, the one I'm after is £290 new. Thought I'd get a 4-24 x 50 Scope, a Parker-Hale Supressor and a Harris Bipod (Swivel). I had thought about a laser but not sure how effective it would be at longer ranges.
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:29 am

MaxuS the 2nd wrote:Yeah, the one I'm after is £290 new.

Damn you, that's £20 less than it cost me for my Air Arms.

Thought I'd get a 4-24 x 50 Scope, a Parker-Hale Suppressor and a Harris Bipod (Swivel).

Sounds like it's going to be a nice piece of kit.
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Unread postAuthor: mark.f » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:01 am

I would say go for a Ruger 10/22 but it looks like you're already sold on the CZ. I would say the Ruger, though, simply because they are so mod-able, including a procedure to free-float the action (you free float the action and bed the barrel, not the other way around).

I myself and going to be trading in my Remington 710 (.30-'06) for a normal Remington 700 (either the BDL or SPS, with open sights) in a slightly shorter cartridge (.308 Win.). I only killed one deer with it and it's been out-of-action ever since, and it's mostly a plastic piece of crap. Also want to move towards open sights instead of a scope, because I find them just as easy to use for the moment (until I get old and my eyes start getting tired).

By the way, over here, we don't call .22LR cartridges "centre-fire", we call them rimfire, because there is no centrally located actual primer, but rather a rim full of primary explosive inside the cartridge which is set off when a hammer strikes near the rim of the cartridge. Is it different over there? Something like a .223, .308, .30-'06, etc., would be called a centerfire cartridge, here.
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Unread postAuthor: Biopyro » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:16 am

You lucky ***. Sadly suburbia does not lend itself to firearms certification. Indeed I am lucky to even be able to fire my spudguns in my garden, but I'd love a shotgun.
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