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Unread postAuthor: D_Hall » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:07 pm

geardog32 wrote:eww... California is a bad place to be a gun owner.

Indeed it is.

But it's a very good place to be if you just like blowing stuff up. I often say that the worst thing about the place I live is the fact that it's in California, but my job is so damned fun I just can't bring myself to even consider leaving (until retirement, at least).
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Unread postAuthor: Gippeto » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:19 pm

Nice collection Dave...but I must admit I was expecting something a bit more "risque". :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:20 pm

Yes it still fires, but the barrel is old style "cold rolled" or something of the sort. Because of explosion/metal failure manufactures stopped using that type of steel and manufacture method.

I used it back in 1980-1982 to put food on the table, (out of necessity) but I wouldn't shoot it any more, was taking my chances even back then. It chambers a 3" shell. :D
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Unread postAuthor: D_Hall » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:29 pm

Gippeto wrote:Nice collection Dave...but I must admit I was expecting something a bit more "risque". :wink:

Heh, that's my 3rd hobby. On that note, yesterday I got an advance copy of a book that I'm sorta mentioned in. :)
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:33 am

D_Hall wrote:Nothing more exciting than a Ruger MkII w/ bull barrel and better than stock grips.


Replace "bull barrel" with "integral suppressor" ;)

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Nice little collection there :)
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:33 am

Back in August, I did join the AR-15 M4 .223 craze that's presently sweeping the US...nothing historical for me. However, I am having a LOT of fun shooting and customizing that thing.

I'll try to get a photo up sometime today.
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:36 am

twizi wrote:i am disapointed and u dont have a 50 cal sniper or 50 cal desert eagle.

Spoken like one of the video game age.

The obsession with the Desert Eagle is daft, done simply because it's "a big gun" - and too big to be practical at that. Even mentioning it around the gun savvy tends to immediately get you earmarked as "a noob" so to speak.

Cool in video games perhaps, but in real life, not a gun to waste your time or money on. It has little practical use as a gun.
It hasn't the convenience of a sensibly sized pistol, and it hasn't the range or accuracy of a rifle. It's a stupid answer that doesn't even have a question.

The .50 rifles are perhaps more interesting, because they do have practical uses, namely their range. Still, if you don't have a use for one...
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Unread postAuthor: D_Hall » Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:37 am

Ragnarok wrote:The .50 rifles are perhaps more interesting, because they do have practical uses, namely their range. Still, if you don't have a use for one...

To be fair, there was a brief period wherein I was considering getting into unlimited class 50 BMG shooting. We've got some 50 cals at the office that were misbehaving and I got tasked with figuring out WTF was wrong with them. As a result of that, I got interested in extreme accuracy....But that's when California started making noises about making 50 BMG illegal. I figured there wouldn't be any point if I couldn't buy ammo (and saved myself a buttload of money in the process).
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:41 am

D_Hall wrote:To be fair, there was a brief period wherein I was considering getting into unlimited class 50 BMG shooting.

Well, if you've got a reason to own one, then there's no issue - but I can't agree with twizi who seems to think that that someone should have a .50 rifle just for the sake of owning one.

They're expensive, large and heavy - not things you should lumber yourself with if you don't need it.
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Unread postAuthor: geardog32 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:32 am

Ragnarok wrote:Well, if you've got a reason to own one, then there's no issue - but I can't agree with twizi who seems to think that that someone should have a .50 rifle just for the sake of owning one.

They're expensive, large and heavy - not things you should lumber yourself with if you don't need it.


well then you don't know gun people. guns are collectors items and good investments too. i go to a lot of gunshows and dont see many desert eagles. there is a sense of rarity and they are very expensive also. another handgun up there is the smith and wesson 500, its huge but the grips on it are much more manageable and fit in your hand quite well. but any way guns are collectors items like anything else, and the cool thing is if you kinda have a heads up on what the government doesnt want you to have, you can buy one or more and the value goes through the roof when its outlawed.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:51 am

Ragnarok wrote:Well, if you've got a reason to own one, then there's no issue - but I can't agree with twizi who seems to think that that someone should have a .50 rifle just for the sake of owning one.


To be honest, that would be reason enough for me to purchase one :) pride of ownership goes beyond any practical use one might have. Let's face it, unless you're a hunter or living in a tough neighbourhood and concerned about home defence, why would you actually need to own a firearm?
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:58 am

geardog32 wrote:Well then you don't know gun people.

Unsurprising, given where I live. The UK, if it will allow you to buy firearms at all, demands a justification for each and every one.

Guns are collectors items and good investments too.

Yes, but from my perspective, buying a .50 rifle just for the sake of owning a .50 rifle is madness.*

If you have something you want to do with it, then fine. (Even if that something is keeping it as an investment.) But I don't believe in owning something for the reason of being able to say you own one.

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@Jack: You're somewhat misunderstanding my point. I'm not talking about "need".
If your reason for owning a rifle is simply to poke holes in paper, then it's still a reason. If the primary reason you're getting something is to allow you to say you've got one, that's pretty poor justification, and you're not using your money very well.
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Unread postAuthor: Moonbogg » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:10 pm

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:To be honest, that would be reason enough for me to purchase one :) pride of ownership goes beyond any practical use one might have. Let's face it, unless you're a hunter or living in a tough neighbourhood and concerned about home defence, why would you actually need to own a firearm?


Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:25 pm

Ragnarok wrote:But I don't believe in owning something for the reason of being able to say you own one.


Generally I would agree with you, but for example I have a night vision sight which I certainly have no actual need for, and only used once to try it out. It was a not inconsiderably investment, but still worth it in my book. Depends on what you've spent vis a vis available resources I suppose.
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:18 pm

Bushmaster Optics Ready model
M4 setup, 5.56mm/.223 Rem upper, chrome lined barrel, 1/9 rifling, M4 feed ramps
CAA padded buttstock, cheekrest and grip upgrade
EOTech 552 holographic sight and flip-out 3X magnifier
Olight M20 Tactical flashlight
FAB foregrip/bipod combo
Tapco picatinny quad-rail

Coming...tactical sling..possible green laser...

Shoots like a dream....

Why? Self/home defense, excellent varmit and medium game platform, it's cool, and most importantly....because I can!

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