Login    Register
User Information
Username:
Password:
We are a free and open
community, all are welcome.
Click here to Register
Sponsored
Who is online

In total there are 60 users online :: 5 registered, 0 hidden and 55 guests


Most users ever online was 155 on Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:40 am

Registered users: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot], Majestic-12 [Bot], MSNbot Media, Yahoo [Bot] based on users active over the past 5 minutes

The Team
Administrators
Global Moderators
global_moderators.png CS

The Official High-Speed Camera Thread

All non-spudgun related discussion goes here such as projects, theories, serious questions, etc. All "off-topic" posts (aka useless posting, determined by moderators) will be removed.
Sponsored 
  • Author
    Message

Unread postAuthor: rp181 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:39 pm

D_Hall:
How are you planning to stream data from the cameras? I highly doubt your going to just shoot and hope the flash card survives....
  • 0

User avatar
rp181
Brigadier General
Brigadier General
 
Posts: 1090
Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:47 pm
Reputation: 0

Unread postAuthor: ramses » Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:46 pm

Flash cards are quite sturdy, but if the camera screws up, the file gets corrupted, and you can't read it. But I bet with military funding, they could recover it.
  • 0

POLAND_SPUD wrote:even if there was no link I'd know it's a bot because of female name :D
User avatar
ramses
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 1679
Joined: Thu May 29, 2008 6:50 pm
Reputation: 3

Unread postAuthor: D_Hall » Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:04 pm

rp181 wrote:I highly doubt your going to just shoot and hope the flash card survives....

That's exactly the plan. Well, more or less. We'll probaby hide it behind some ballistic glass or something, but in the general sense... The plan is indeed to set up the camera and just keep our fingers crossed.

Historically we've had customers ask to take high speed video of [stuff] and we're like, "If you've got $100k to put in an escrow account, we'll be more than happy. But understand that if the camera gets destroyed, we keep the money AND you'll get no video. We're betting that the camera will get destroyed. So... Is it worth a $100k bet to ya?" More times than not, the answer is a resounding "no" and the video simply doesn't get taken.

Now, we may be able to replace $100k with $200. I guarentee under those conditions that many people are willing to take that bet. Maybe they get video. Maybe they don't. If they get the video, GREAT! If they don't... Meh, it was only $200 and it's not like they would have gotten the video anyways.
  • 0

Simulation geek (GGDT / HGDT) and designer of Vera.
User avatar
D_Hall
Donating Member
Donating Member
 
Posts: 1759
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:37 pm
Location: SoCal
Reputation: 6

Unread postAuthor: rp181 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:49 pm

from my experience (in my old camera/phone hacking days), flash cards don't take abuse very well (especially when coupled with heat).

I think it would atleast be worth making a fake card to bring the wires out, so you can put the card in a steel box.

I thought the higher end cameras stream via ethernet?
  • 0

User avatar
rp181
Brigadier General
Brigadier General
 
Posts: 1090
Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:47 pm
Reputation: 0

Unread postAuthor: D_Hall » Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:29 pm

rp181 wrote:I thought the higher end cameras stream via ethernet?

They'll provided standard video output for real-time monitoring of camera functions and such via ethernet, but there's no way in hell to push that much bandwidth through ethernet real-time(*).

Basically the cameras have a 100 GB (or some insane number like that) worth of ram that they store the images to. AFTER the test, you have to download the data. Typically this is done via firewire and takes 30-45 minutes depending on framerates and such....The whole time you're praying you don't have a power glitch, 'cause if you do, you lose everything (UPSs are your friend).


(*) One thing to remember is that high-end cameras do not encode to mpg or other formats that have losses...you get zero-loss video, but the result is MASSIVE file sizes. Put it this way: Our photographers typically deliver video to our customers on 500 GB hard drives (and sometimes 1 TB drives). Nothing smaller will hold it.
  • 0

Simulation geek (GGDT / HGDT) and designer of Vera.
User avatar
D_Hall
Donating Member
Donating Member
 
Posts: 1759
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:37 pm
Location: SoCal
Reputation: 6

Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:03 am

I think I'll be investing in one of these.

Which is better, the EX-FC100 or the EX-FS10?

edit: Just ordered the FC100 :)
  • 0

User avatar
jackssmirkingrevenge
Donating Member
Donating Member
 
Posts: 24225
Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:28 pm
Country: Holy See (Vatican City State) (va)
Reputation: 66

Unread postAuthor: jor2daje » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:02 am

Ya i think the fc100 is better jsr good call, it has zoom, better macro, image stabilization. I just got the fs10 because its smaller so I can take it with me everywhere.

btw sorry for no update on vortex vids, I just got an oxyacetelyne welder and Ive been a little preoccupied. :D
  • 0

Patience is a virtue, get it if you can, seldom in a women, never in a man.
User avatar
jor2daje
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Posts: 418
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:41 pm
Location: Southern California
Reputation: 0

Sponsored

Sponsor
 


Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:06 am

jor2daje wrote:Ya i think the fc100 is better jsr good call, it has zoom, better macro, image stabilization.


That's what I figured, less compact -> better peformance. Let's hope it arrives in one piece, this is the most expensive thing I've ordered from eBay so far *crosses appendages*

btw sorry for no update on vortex vids


No worries, hopefully I'll be able to continue your good work myself :)

edit: according to Fedex it should be here by Thursday, woo!
  • 0

User avatar
jackssmirkingrevenge
Donating Member
Donating Member
 
Posts: 24225
Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:28 pm
Country: Holy See (Vatican City State) (va)
Reputation: 66

Unread postAuthor: Insomniac » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:04 am

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
jor2daje wrote:Ya i think the fc100 is better jsr good call, it has zoom, better macro, image stabilization.


That's what I figured, less compact -> better peformance. Let's hope it arrives in one piece, this is the most expensive thing I've ordered from eBay so far *crosses appendages*

btw sorry for no update on vortex vids


No worries, hopefully I'll be able to continue your good work myself :)

edit: according to Fedex it should be here by Thursday, woo!


Not to mention that due to the somewhat larger size, the FC-100 takes a larger, higher MaH lithium battery than the FS-10 does so you will get a bit more battery life out of it.
  • 0

I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges.
Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

Add me on msn!!! insomniac-55@hotmail.com
User avatar
Insomniac
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 1297
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:47 pm
Location: Australia
Country: Australia (au)
Reputation: 0

Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:18 am

Insomniac wrote:Not to mention that due to the somewhat larger size, the FC-100 takes a larger, higher MaH lithium battery than the FS-10 does so you will get a bit more battery life out of it.


I didn't consider this but good point :) it's arrived in Paris already (annoying that stuff you order seems to have better holidays :roll: :D ) so it should arrive at the epoxy batcave by tomorrow, can't wait. I'll certainly be taking the Monsoon out for some damage videos :twisted:
  • 0

User avatar
jackssmirkingrevenge
Donating Member
Donating Member
 
Posts: 24225
Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:28 pm
Country: Holy See (Vatican City State) (va)
Reputation: 66

Unread postAuthor: Insomniac » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:10 am

Hahah, speaking of holidays, my EX-FC100 came with me to Hamilton Island last week :D

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rctjIpbbXzg[/youtube]

Among other things, I visited the firing range they have there... I fired 25 shots through a scoped .22 rifle, 25 shots through a semi-auto .22 pistol...

And then 6 rounds with Dirty Harry's S&W model 29 .44 Magnum.... BOOM! :D :D :D

Pretty fun considering I've only ever shot a 12 gauge shotgun and a .410 shotgun previously. :D
  • 0

I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges.
Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

Add me on msn!!! insomniac-55@hotmail.com
User avatar
Insomniac
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 1297
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:47 pm
Location: Australia
Country: Australia (au)
Reputation: 0

Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:09 am

Insomniac wrote:Among other things, I visited the firing range they have there... I fired 25 shots through a scoped .22 rifle, 25 shots through a semi-auto .22 pistol...

And then 6 rounds with Dirty Harry's S&W model 29 .44 Magnum.... BOOM! :D :D :D


and no high speed footage of that? I mean the sea is nice and all, but... ;)
  • 0

User avatar
jackssmirkingrevenge
Donating Member
Donating Member
 
Posts: 24225
Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:28 pm
Country: Holy See (Vatican City State) (va)
Reputation: 66

Unread postAuthor: Insomniac » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:16 am

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
Insomniac wrote:Among other things, I visited the firing range they have there... I fired 25 shots through a scoped .22 rifle, 25 shots through a semi-auto .22 pistol...

And then 6 rounds with Dirty Harry's S&W model 29 .44 Magnum.... BOOM! :D :D :D


and no high speed footage of that? I mean the sea is nice and all, but... ;)


I didn't have the camera on me at the time :(
  • 0

I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges.
Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

Add me on msn!!! insomniac-55@hotmail.com
User avatar
Insomniac
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 1297
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:47 pm
Location: Australia
Country: Australia (au)
Reputation: 0

Unread postAuthor: CpTn_lAw » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:43 am

In the coming few months, i'll visit my local range. I'll try to film weapons in high speed ;)
  • 0

"J'mets mes pieds où j'veux, et c'est souvent dans la gueule."
User avatar
CpTn_lAw
Brigadier General
Brigadier General
 
Posts: 987
Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:10 am
Location: France
Reputation: 0

Unread postAuthor: Insomniac » Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:37 am

Just filmed 2 layers of aluminium foil acting as a burst disk on my mini combustion (no barrel)

The noise sorta caught me by surprise... I had hearing protection and knew it would be loud but it was more powerful than I expected... for a moment I thought the lid had blown off :lol:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97jodgea7t0[/youtube]
  • 0

I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges.
Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.

Add me on msn!!! insomniac-55@hotmail.com
User avatar
Insomniac
Major General
Major General
 
Posts: 1297
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:47 pm
Location: Australia
Country: Australia (au)
Reputation: 0

PreviousNext

Return to Non-Spudgun Related Discussion

Who is online

Registered users: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot], Majestic-12 [Bot], MSNbot Media, Yahoo [Bot]

Reputation System ©'