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Unread postAuthor: Technician1002 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:05 pm

Some of the clinical definitions are in relation to Frequency, Duration, and Intensity.

For example it is normal for most of us to lose our cool once in a while. To be diagnosed as ODD, the anger is more frequent, longer, and more intense.

Just because you answer some questions yes is not an indication.

In working some with troubled youth, and adopting a couple of FAS kids, I learned some of things to look for.

Many kids are in Foster Care simply because their bad spells are more frequent, more intense and last longer than normal. Having bad spells while growing up is normal.

Mental health is often called the inviable disability. It often is unseen as some of these kids function normally some of the time.
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Unread postAuthor: Moonbogg » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:12 am

I am definitely ADHD and wouldn't doubt if I had a dash of aspergers as well. It is a curse for a cannon builder to be completely well. Those of us with a tick or two seem to be blessed with the energy and will to carry out the sickest projects.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:16 pm

Brian the brain wrote:...and grammatical jokes...


Are you implying that such terrible puns as "pnuzi" actually have a physiological justification :D
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Unread postAuthor: D_Hall » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:28 pm

MrCrowley wrote: 'I do certain things in a very inflexible, repetitive way', doesn't everyone? It's called habit and routine. 'I find it hard to workout what other people are thinking and feeling', heard of the movie 'What Women Want'? I'm sure every guy and every girl feels that about the opposite sex in one way or another. 'I am good at picking up details and facts', seems a bit subjective to me. How do you define your skill at recognising details and facts?


No, you don't get it. At all.

What you call habit and routine are only the tip of the iceberg. Say you're 10 years old. Say your dad picks you up from school. Say your dad says, "Want to go get some ice cream?" How do you respond? Even if your normal habit or routine is to just go home, the vast majority of kids will be all for a trip to Baskin Robbins. Meanwhile, an Aspie might have a panic attack because the ROUTINE is to drive straight home. They want no part of getting ice cream even if it is their favorite thing on Earth. They want to go home. Why? Because that's the routine. Going out for ice cream may be acceptable if you ask them a week in advance, but you sure as hell don't pull a stunt like that on a whim.

Yes, everyone has habits and routines. What most people lack (even if they say otherwise) is the 'inflexible' part of that habbit or routine.


And it's not just figuring out what the other sex wants when it comes to courtship and the like. It's figuring out what your own mother/father/brother/sister want. A stern look and a raised voice may mean absolutely nothing. Unless they explicitly state, "I am angry!" you may have absolutely no clue that anything is amiss. Their body language and facial expressions mean no more to you than Egyptian hieroglyphics. You see the signs. You know it's supposed to mean something. But WHAT it's supposed to mean is a total mystery.


As for recognizing detail and such... True, 'tis very subjective, but when enough people say things like, "How do you notice crap like that!" when you walk into Best Buy and notice that the third TV in the second row has a burned out pixel you start to get the idea that you're noticing things that other people do not notice. Sure, maybe if they're shopping for TVs, but you came in to look at computers!


Watch the movie Rainman. That's the extreme end of Autism, to be sure. But anyone who's spent a lot of time around Aspies can relate to that movie.



Disclosure: My son is high functioning. But to whomever made the comment about it all being about money for the pharmacutical industry... He's not medicated.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:57 pm

No, you don't get it. At all.

I don't mean to be rude but you didn't get what I meant either. What you pointed out was, in fact, my point. Most members here will read that question and reply "well, I always do the exact same thing every morning in a particular order and I wouldn't change the way I do it. For example I have breakfast then check emails, have shower, shave, get ready for work/school/uni."

So the problem is people reading those questions and answering 'yes' when in fact they are not applicable and don't meet the criteria. The first part of my post outlined this exactly and was the basis of my concerns for using that video as anything more than a rough guide. I guess the main problem is with the definition of "inflexible". While one person would say their Mondays are inflexible as they have school all day followed by training and then homework, someone with Asperger Syndrome, like you pointed out, may not be able to mentally handle the changes to their routine.

Most of the members on here who say they answered 'yes' to that question I would say didn't understand the severity required to answer yes. If you are mentally/physically unable to change your routine, I doubt you would be here on Spudfiles. I'm sure it is possible but in my understanding I don't see it as being very likely. Though, I am sure that this is only one of the symptoms of Asperger Syndrome and you may not actually suffer from it even if you are diagnosed with it. I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject I have to say.

Basically, my argument is the same for the second paragraph of your reply and again has to do with people not understanding what is required of the question to be able to answer yes. Many people will read the question and think "I can't understand girls at all/I can't understand people's emotions at all". I'm sure everyone at some point in their life has thought that.

Not to mention the thinking aspect of the question, unless you have known the person for a many number of years I wouldn't expect many people to know what someone else is thinking. Like you point out, this is interpreting the question wrong and like I have pointed out this is exactly what is wrong with the video/questions. They are all entirely subjective to each individual reader. You need a third party, you need a psychologist.

No need for me to make my argument a third time on your third paragraph, I'm sure you understand what I mean by now. I have seen Rainman by the way, was a nice movie.

My last paragraph of my first post was basically reading the questions as any normal person would. They're entirely subjective. I'm sure some people even wouldn't mind to have an excuse for their lack of girlfriends/friends/social capability so they will think they are applicable for a particular question and answer 'yes' to it. Now, don't get me wrong here, i'm not at all implying this is what people with Asperger Syndrome do. I don't doubt anything about Asperger's and I recognise it as a syndrome (unlike a girl I once knew who said people with Asperger's are just "dumb").
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Unread postAuthor: Labtecpower » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:23 am

Hey, another aspie here.
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