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Unread postAuthor: velocity3x » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:25 pm

Years ago, I heard a "Radio Noggin Doctor" state that a great cause of trouble in society can be traced back to the school yard.

Little boys on the school yard are taught to play games to win within the rules. They compete hard to win and will fiercely fight to defend the rules if they are broken.

Little girls on the school are taught to play the same game, but winning and rules are secondary at most. Rules be damn....Their primary objective is to have fun.

Unfortunately, that ethic remains in them through life.
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Unread postAuthor: Labtecpower » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:27 pm

The Rosie O'donald kind or the frilly little skirt, high heels and angelic face kind? It makes a difference.


The first beats up the other guys in my class, and smokes shag. The other is a former secretary :D
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:36 pm

No wonder I like Russians :D

POLAND_SPUD wrote:what I am suggesting as a solution is - 'let's build some weapons and start WW III' :D


As I read your reply that was exactly how I hoped you'd end the post :D

Spudfiles is suddenly empowering future mens' rights activists hehe

Little boys on the school yard are taught to play games to win within the rules. They compete hard to win and will fiercely fight to defend the rules if they are broken.


Not so in modern "inclusive" education, where everyone is a winner :roll:
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Unread postAuthor: velocity3x » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:00 pm

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:Not so in modern "inclusive" education, where everyone is a winner :roll:


So true. Now you even receive a trophy for failure. I recently read an article explaining how our thinking is "socially retarded".

In a normal household with several young children, they're all treated equally at an early age. If one child get a reward, all children receive the same reward. As the children age and begin to achieve, they become resentful if their siblings still receive the same reward based on their success. In a normal home, as the children grow older, the system gradually changes from a socialist system to one that rewards the success of the individual....not the group.

The children that now, as adults still have that same "share and share alike"mentality were deemed to be "Socially Retarded".
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:12 pm

The children that now, as adults still have that same "share and share alike"mentality were deemed to be "Socially Retarded".


True. It's unfortunate that there are losers, but there cannot be winners without them.

I like this one :)



If google translate is right, looks like just the stuff you're looking for ;)
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Unread postAuthor: velocity3x » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:19 pm

Its not enough that I should succeed others should fail


A cold, hard fact of life!
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Unread postAuthor: mattyzip77 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:46 pm

The new excuse these days for everything seems to be autistic????
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:05 pm

I find this quote from Richard Dawkins appropriate:

The population of the United States is more than 300 million and it includes some of the best and brightest that the human species has to offer, probably more so than any other country in the world. There is surely something wrong with a system for choosing a leader when, given a pool of such talent and a process that occupies more than a year and consumes billions of dollars, what rises to the top of the heap is George W Bush. Or when the likes of Rick Perry or Michele Bachmann or Sarah Palin can be mentioned as even remote possibilities.


I don't mean to offend if you're American or Republican (Obama could also join that list in some respects), one just has to admit Bachmann, Palin and Bush are idiots (I don't know much about Perry).


On a side note, don't get too carried away with the feminism bashing (I'll allow 'sarcastic comments' :wink: ).

mattyzip77 wrote:The new excuse these days for everything seems to be autistic????

Just don't tell me autistic people are 'just stupid'. I had a girlfriend who told me 'dyslexic people are just dumb', she wasn't around for much longer after that :wink:

I know I posted this before but I think it has a real shot at boosting not only moral in the U.S. but moral worldwide in Western society. In between global warming, financial meltdowns, war in Iraq, the war on drugs, natural disasters and general uncertainty in people's lives, they could do with a bit of excitement, adventure and hope:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_F3pw5F_Pc[/youtube]
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Unread postAuthor: Technician1002 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:12 pm

The smart have seen the blood bath. There are easier was to riches and fame. Only those left with heavy funding and an strong motive are left to run and will bother the media circus. I would not want the job. It does not pay well enough to put up with the attacks.
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:13 pm

On a side note, don't get too carried away with the feminism bashing
don't worry you'll get there - just give her some time :D :D

I don't mean to offend if you're American or Republican (Obama could also join that list in some respects), one just has to admit Bachmann, Palin and Bush are idiots (I don't know much about Perry).
Sure, but I don't know why you specifically mention the Republican party?

The democratic party seems to have a lot more to do with the topic at hand


If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain
very true for me - the older I get the more conservative I get

while they suck at foreign policy and stuff like that....
...their economic and social policies make much more sense (at least in theory - we're not talking abut how well they implement them) :D
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Unread postAuthor: velocity3x » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:20 pm

POLAND_SPUD wrote:Sure, but I don't know why you specifically mention the Republican party?

The democratic party seems to have a lot more to do with the topic at hand


Poland,
You are correct, but both parties are taking us to h*ll. The dems just do it faster. You show much insight into U.S. politics. Where does your interest come from and where do you get your info?
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:29 pm

Where does your interest come from
my plans for world domination

where do you get your info?
Lots of different sources
but seriously I guess that sometimes those not involved directly have a better understanding, as it's easier for them to be objective
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:03 pm

POLAND_SPUD wrote:]Sure, but I don't know why you specifically mention the Republican party?

Because the four people in the quote I posted were all Republicans, I didn't want it to seem like I was singling them out (hence me saying Obama could also belong on the list).

In NZ, I'm right wing but our right wing is very different to America's. Our two big parties are centre right and centre left. Our left wing party is too left wing for me. Though in America I'd be forced to vote Democratic due to their stances on human rights, science, less religion, foreign policy, environmental policy etc etc.

Even if the Republicans had better policies, there'd be too much risk someone like this got noticed by a republican with a bit of power.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:45 am

velocity3x wrote:You show much insight into U.S. politics. Where does your interest come from and where do you get your info?


I think you'll find most educated Europeans have some level of interest in American politics, America's power means you foreign policy will affect us sooner or later so it's good not to be in the dark :)

As to sources:

those not involved directly have a better understanding, as it's easier for them to be objective


That means not CNN, Fox News, ABC, CBS etc... I venture to say that the Onion is a more accurate source of news :)

A comment on British news vs American news:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_amyJCLmMY8[/youtube]

I strongly recommend anything by Charlie Brooker - the "How TV ruined your life" series, Screenwipe, Newswipe... it's nice to see things from a grim cynical perspective with tongue in cheek and both feet firmly planted on the ground.

my plans for world domination


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:D :D :D

Even if the Republicans had better policies, there'd be too much risk someone like this got noticed by a republican with a bit of power.


Surely such individuals are on the fringe, though I suppose as people brought up in fairly liberal societies with churches emptier than ever it's hard to understand the hold which religion has on US society and politics in general.
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