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Unread postAuthor: inonickname » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:12 pm

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind Maudit.
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Unread postAuthor: LeMaudit » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:29 pm

That would be the humane part of it... apply the less painful and quickest as a consequence :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: LeMaudit » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:31 pm

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind Maudit.


I respectfully disagree. An eye for an eye is a fair way to take responsibility of your actions.


[edit] sorry for the double post... I goofed
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Unread postAuthor: Technician1002 » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:33 pm

MrCrowley wrote:How do you distinguish between the different degress of murder? :D


Going into a bar with a loaded pistol to shoot the guy that cheated you in cards is Pre Meditated Murder.

Holding up a bank without intending to kill anyone but bringing a pistol just to protect yourself and then using it, it is Murder

When you drive home from the bar totally smashed and run over the kid in the crosswalk is Vehicular Homicide.

Running over the kid who ran into the street between parked cars and you were not speeding is called an accident.

Shooting a guy who just broke into your home and is threatening your wife with a shotgun is called self defense. This is often not considered murder even if you bought the gun because you felt threatened and have a restraining order against the guy.

Degrees of murder is based on intent. Often the intent is a huge part of a murder case.

Other countries have other designations. Pre-Meditated Murder will generally get you life or a death sentence. The other two can get you life, but not generally a death sentence.

Disclaimer. I am not a Lawyer, but I enjoy reading John Grisham novels. I was on Jury duty for a gun case.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:53 pm

Technician1002 wrote:Degrees of murder is based on intent. Often the intent is a huge part of a murder case.

Other countries have other designations. Pre-Meditated Murder will generally get you life or a death sentence. The other two can get you life, but not generally a death sentence.

Disclaimer. I am not a Lawyer, but I enjoy reading John Grisham novels. I was on Jury duty for a gun case.

I agree. My point, not every murder is worthy of the death sentence (hidden proposition, not every murder should be judged the same). If you get in to a drunken fight and king-hit someone and they die from that hit or by hitting their head on the pavement, you still could get murder but I wouldn't want the person to be put to death for it. Even a life sentence (U.S. life sentence) is too harsh in my mind.

People who drive drunk and kill an innocent person is probably just as bad as pre-meditated murder in my book (I'm not saying either deserve the death penalty, just that they're equally as bad). I wouldn't mind if a person who did that received a life sentence, I would mind if they got a 8 year sentence and only served 3.


By the way, I don't take any of these conversations personally. I'm aware everyone has their own opinion and in the case of supporting the death penalty or not, I don't think a person who doesn't support it is any better (morally) than someone who does or vice versa.
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:10 am

Degrees of murder is based on intent. Often the intent is a huge part of a murder case.


Often changes with back room deals to make the trials go faster (push the case load).

If you get in to a drunken fight and king-hit someone and they die from that hit or by hitting their head on the pavement


Involuntary manslaughter.

People who drive drunk and kill an innocent person


Vehicular manslaughter.

The U.S. justice system rarely works as prescribed on documented paper but it's really better then marshal law...
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Unread postAuthor: inonickname » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:23 am

Technician1002 wrote:
MrCrowley wrote:How do you distinguish between the different degress of murder? :D


Going into a bar with a loaded pistol to shoot the guy that cheated you in cards is Pre Meditated Murder.

Holding up a bank without intending to kill anyone but bringing a pistol just to protect yourself and then using it, it is Murder

When you drive home from the bar totally smashed and run over the kid in the crosswalk is Vehicular Homicide.

Running over the kid who ran into the street between parked cars and you were not speeding is called an accident.

Shooting a guy who just broke into your home and is threatening your wife with a shotgun is called self defense. This is often not considered murder even if you bought the gun because you felt threatened and have a restraining order against the guy.

Degrees of murder is based on intent. Often the intent is a huge part of a murder case.

Other countries have other designations. Pre-Meditated Murder will generally get you life or a death sentence. The other two can get you life, but not generally a death sentence.

Disclaimer. I am not a Lawyer, but I enjoy reading John Grisham novels. I was on Jury duty for a gun case.


Spoken like an American. Things are different elsewhere; here if you used lethal force to defend your property you'll get murder or manslaughter. And it's not rare for manslaughter to carry a larger sentence than murder.

Running over someone in an accident will usually be manslaughter here, or grievous bodily harm if the injuries are not fatal.

Yep, Australia is a backwards ass country. Rape sentences here are often more harsh than murder sentences.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:45 am

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Unread postAuthor: Brian the brain » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:58 am

Thanks Jack.
I do recommend we change the subject.

Discussing the subject -on a spudgun based website seems...well...not too smart.
Not the mindset we'd like to express...

Think happy thoughts...

we're all jolly good fellows...
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Unread postAuthor: mark.f » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:00 am

Name: Fredric "Spanky" Turpington III
Date: Boobums
TA: The correct spelling is "TnA"

1. What are the distinctive principles and natures of Montesquieu’s historical governments – those being monarchical, despotic, and republican, both aristocratic and democratic?

To answer this question we must first look at Montesquieu’s history as he appears in Norse and Persian mythology. Montesquieu was the distant nephew of Yurtle "the Tertle" the Turtle, ancient destroyer of worlds and children’s toys, whose nefarious exploits are recorded in the two epics "Yertle the Tertle Murdles a Frankenfertle Hurtle," and "The Zodiac Killer: The Unstoppable Bloodlust of Yertle the Turtle." The spellings of "turtle" vary depending on whether or not you know how to spell the word turtle. In these long stories, sometimes reaching up to fourteen pages in length, Yurtle the Turtle is described as being the sworn enemy of both Fran Drescher, who laughs like a loon full of helium, and the greater metropolitan area of Chicago, which may or may not have something to do with loons. He is probably the most famous of turtles, except possibly for the one in the Tootsie Roll Pop commercial, which is actually a load of crap, because only a moron licks a candy that is clearly designed for sucking. A good way to see if someone is intelligent or not is to given them a Tootsie Roll Pop and see if they lick it. If they do, you are legally required (by the law) to murder them with a ball peen hammer, even if they’re in the tub or on the potty. This is the foundation for all civilization, which is probably something Montesquieu talks about or mentions in passing.

Montesquieu, having inherited these traits, went on to develop reason, which was unforeseen by scientists at the time, mostly cause they couldn’t figure crap out. Before reason, the way arguments were determined was by striking your opponent repeatedly about the head with a sharp or blunt object, and seeing if he bleeds or stops breathing. If he does, he is wrong, and may have to drink depending on if you are playing a drinking game. The preceding idea is stolen directly from a catoon tv show and I think it’s downright hilarious.

Reason can be observed by taking facts and then saying stuff about them. For instance, we shall take the example of my dog (for instance) whose name is Gus, who is small and shaped like a weiner, which is funny. I sometimes call him "EsophaGus" and "Augustus Caesar," or even "wigglefloppyponypup" if I have been up to some serious drinking. (for instance!) This is what reason is:

Fact 1: Gus is small.
Fact 2: He is a small dog.
Conclusion: There is no God.

Rousseau invented this and because of it I bet he got more ass than a warehouse full of toilet seats, or tampons, or even rapists, which is really saying something because I bet those rapists would be very upset for being pent up in a warehouse all day and would vent their anger through more rape. This is a bad thing unless you dress them up as clowns in which case it is also terrifying.

In conclusion, sometimes when I buy a bottle of poteen and sit around drinking it I usually wind up drawing pictures of turtles on my body with a knife using blood as ink. This makes serious sense to me. You can even use your nipples for the eyes of the turtles, and that way you can always see if someone is sneaking up on you from the front, which is pretty tricky, because you’d naturally be thinking they’d sneak up on you from the back. This is one of the foundations of society. Montesquieu.

2. What are the ways in which the spread of international commerce alters the character of international relations, specifically religion? Cite Montesquieu’s references.

The spread of international commerce is very much like the spread of other things, like peanut butter, but not the crunchy kind. When my brother was four he couldn’t eat anything with peanuts because he’d throw up all over the place and then I’d jump up and point at him and say SURVEY SAYS YOU’RE A FAG! This would make mom cry and she would lock herself in the car and we’d have to make dinner for ourselves (but not with peanut butter)

International commerce is done in the following ways.

1. Nation A sneaks knowing looks at Nation B from across the room. Nation B flutters her eyelashes, which are very pretty.
2. Nation A makes up lies about how cute Nation B’s shoes are, even if they’re stupid and ugly and she has the fashion taste of a syphilitic lobster ass.
3. INTERCOURSE
4. Nation B says things like "I love you" which is fancy talk for "sex with you is okay and I like the stuff you own." Liking the stuff she owns is important, because eventually women, who already hate sex, will eventually begin to hate it more and more. This is because God hates you, personally. Her stuff will not get old and if it’s like all the David Bowie albums ever made then that’s pretty sweet.
5. Nation B is robbed and left for dead in a ditch
6. Nation C comes along and finds Nation B from her weak cries for help
7. INTERCOURSE

Religions are okay with this so long as they get to wear funny hats. If they are not allowed to do this they will get very upset and you’ll be in trouble, even more than when I showed up at my church’s annual easter egg hunt and I told all the kids that Jesus had laid all those eggs himself. I have never seen fat women so irate. This did not help when in retaliation I began to loudly sing "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" but with liberal usage of the words "cuntshit" and "rat tits." This is a foundation of society.

My conclusion can be seen in this graph (which I drew for no reason):
It can be seen here: http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8744 ... nce8lu.png

In conclusion, Montesquieu is hard to spell.
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Unread postAuthor: LeMaudit » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:53 am

:shock: I need another expresso...
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:57 am

Mark, that was unbelievably good!

Not your own work though?

http://robertbennett.blogspot.com/

edit: *chuckle* http://robertbennett.blogspot.com/2005/ ... woman.html
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Unread postAuthor: saefroch » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:59 am

Technician1002 wrote:New Testament that teaches the parable of the sower. Bad seed comes up with the bad. At harvest, the fruitful is kept and the weeds are pulled and burned.
Not to be a horrid nit-picker, and I'm surprised JSR didn't correct you, but that's the parable of the weeds and wheat you're referring to. The parable of the sower is about how some seed falls on good ground, some on the path, some on the rocks, and some among the thorns.

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Unread postAuthor: MRR » Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:44 pm

Are some people really that dumb? :shock:
I think that is fake but see for yourselves.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nLYZdk0Jbs&feature=ytn%3Amptnews[/youtube]
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Unread postAuthor: Brian the brain » Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:56 pm

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Did you not read the post?
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Conclusion: There is no God.

This is because God hates you, personally.


So true.
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I do however spot a flaw.
Fran Drescher has only been around since the 18th century..
While Persian Mythology was born in a single day on Feb 3rd in the year 673 A.D.
It was Sigmund Freud who prooved this after a day of drinking beyond a doubt...all because his dog wasn't potty trained.
His was shaped like a weiner too.He flashed his in public and ate peanutbutter.

Freud was a Bratwurst himself.

This makes me wonder if mark.f 's got his facts straight.
Wether or not he is in fact straight has nothing to do with it.
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