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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:23 pm

Digitus Removus.

No kidding! Those things are scary. I get especially worried around power tools because if I mess up a finger, it will majorly hinder my piano studies. And since my drill press is new and I'm not used to it yet, it is scary to me. But I used the miter today... Man that is scary. I also don't like the circular saw or angle grinder. Haha :lol:
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:33 pm

evilvet wrote:Compound Mitre Saw, also known by the Latin name Digitus Removus.
http://www.bunnings.com.au/products_pro ... Mitre+Saws
A friend of mine almost lost his finger in high school tech class, a piece of tendon or skin was the only thing holding it on.
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Unread postAuthor: evilvet » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:40 pm

What's worse is watching someone use one if they haven't been trained properly. First time users have a nasty habit of pulling the spinning saw towards them through the work, rather than extending first and pushing away.

Creates some spectacular jams and flying timber.

@GunFreak. One final tip on a drill press: Never, never, never hold your work by hand. Always clamp, no matter how light the material and how small the drill. One snagged flute and you have a propeller effect. The only way you would be playing piano then is by loading one of these

http://mechanicalmusicrestoration.com/resources/CelRoll5.jpg

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Unread postAuthor: mark.f » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:42 pm

I guess I may be desensitized by (literally) hours using a saw just like the one linked, but I find safety to be a relatively straightforward thing when using it...
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:08 pm

Thanks for the tip evilvet. I could use some more of those haha.
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Unread postAuthor: inonickname » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:21 pm

My lathe has a guard over the chuck which must be lowered to turn on the lathe, and it's hard to leave the key in and lower the guard. Drill press isn't as dangerous, so I just go by the rule of never taking your hand off that chuck key until it's away from the machine.

9" angle grinders aren't so bad. Only exception is cutting disks. VERY unsafe. Way too heavy and powerful to risk a grab like that. If you have the strength then regular grinding is fine. They're a lot nicer to use when the disk is balanced so they don't hurt your wrists as much.

The only cutting disks I'll use are mounted to a drop saw or the thin 1.5mm or so disks for a 4" or so size grinder. The thicker 3-4mm disks, if they fail, make nice shards. One of dads colleagues at work had his neck slashed when a disk failed and fragmented (missed all the vital bits though). If you try go too fast with the thin disks, or bend/twist/break them, they just disintegrate into dust and grit. Granted, you avoid breathing it in, but it's way better than solid fragments doing 300 fps
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Unread postAuthor: Zeus » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:33 pm

Ino, I just don't trust something that big, spinning that fast, 4" grinders are fine, but that's the only tool I refuse to use.

Bandsaws are fine, as are overpowered chainsaws, but I just don't like them. I don't do anywhere near enough grinding to warrant getting one anyway.
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Unread postAuthor: Fnord » Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:34 pm

Um, duh.
You know, jsefcik has the right idea on this one. Tape the chuck key to the drill press cord, so you have to unplug it to mess with the chuck. Danger gone.

Oh and com'on zeus. 9" grinders aren't that scary. Over many hours of using them I've only been hit in the crotch once by a fragmented sanding pad.
But you should at least be wearing <strike>underwear.</strike> <strike>pants.</strike> jeans.
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Unread postAuthor: jsefcik » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:10 am

Fnord wrote:Um, duh.
You know, jsefcik has the right idea on this one. Tape the chuck to the drill press cord, so you have to unplug it to mess with the chuck. Danger gone.

Oh and com'on zeus. 9" grinders aren't that scary. Over many hours of using them I've only been hit in the crotch once by a fragmented sanding pad.
But you should at least be wearing <strike>underwear.</strike> <strike>pants.</strike> jeans.



thank you, finally someone got my point!!!! people were saying its dangerous, how if there is now power lol!!!! :D :D
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Unread postAuthor: jsefcik » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:12 am

MrCrowley wrote:
mobile chernobyl wrote: Starting a drill press or lathe with the chuck key in place leads to interesting results!
Back in highschool I made that mistake several times with a lathe. I was lucky and only ever got hit by it once, but damn it freakin hurt.

In other news, I leave for Sydney in less than 24 hours. See you guys in a weeks time.

another mistake, i didnt say leave the chuck in, i mean like tie a piece of string, from the chuck to the drill , so you dont loose it, i never said leave it in, there is nothing bad or dangerous about using a piece of string
jsefcik, sorry but you're wrong this time. People leave keys in chucks all the time so the argument is that it is safer to accidentally leave a loose key in a chuck than to accidentally leave a key tied to something in the chuck.

If people never made the mistake of leaving keys in chucks then turning the drill on, people would never lose chuck keys either so that would make the string redundant :D



people who leave the chuck in, thats their fault,

so mr crowley im not the idiot, your wrong, im alot older then you have been using tools like this alot longer and yes i did take shop classes, thats where i learned to tape the chuck to the cord, so when you unplug it to adjust the drill you are safer, your 14-16 whatever but still

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Unread postAuthor: Zeus » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:10 am

jsefcik wrote:people who leave the chuck in, thats their fault,

so mr crowley im not the idiot, your the idiot, im alot older then you have been using tools like this alot longer and yes i did take shop classes, thats where i learned to tape the chuck to the cord, so when you unplug it to adjust the drill you are safer, your 14-16 whatever but still


Umm, jsefcik, I highly advise editing your post, insulting moderators usually ends up with you being IP banned.

I agree with what you say about taping the key to the plug, that's actually quite a good idea.

And Fnord, I thought everyone used power tools in the nude?

I actually fill half the PPE requirements in my daily wear. If it were the 80's, I could be wearing fluro too.
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Unread postAuthor: evilvet » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:24 am

so mr crowley im not the idiot, your the idiot, im alot older then you have been using tools like this alot longer and yes i did take shop classes

And just to return to your original post before you squirm away

but id say tye a string to your chuck key to your press

Not a lot of detail on using tape on the power cord just then, or did I miss something?

Which may lead one to assume that so much time spent in shop class left little time left for English or civility lessons...... :roll:
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:11 am

your 14-16 whatever but still


Try 20-22 and a senior member of Spudfiles regardless of actual age. He also has serperior build skills and more of a verity of cannons built so calling him out is going to raise the temper of more members then just himself. I suggest you lower your tone and stop calling members "idiots" jsefcik.
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Unread postAuthor: Brian the brain » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:35 am

Agreed.
I edited the post and hope you take jrrdw's advice.

Insulting people doesn't make you look smarter or more right.

Lighten up.
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Can't ask for a better compliment!!
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Unread postAuthor: ramses » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:31 pm

evilvet wrote:
@GunFreak. One final tip on a drill press: Never, never, never hold your work by hand. Always clamp, no matter how light the material and how small the drill. One snagged flute and you have a propeller effect. The only way you would be playing piano then is by loading one of these



I used to hand hold wood on my drill press. It grabbed once, but I held on and stalled it out 8).

Now, at a minimum, I clamp something to the table to keep it from spinning more than ~15 degrees if it does grab.

I always clamp metal down, especially when I drill on my 2HP mill/drill...
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