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Unread postAuthor: Daltonultra » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:15 am

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
Daltonultra wrote:Now, for my fun day: Had a massive cyst form on the back of my left shoulder over the last few days.


This explains the intense debate, hope you recover soon!


HAH! You'd have got the same trouncing if I was high or unconscious! lol

BTW, while watching the news today, I noticed a rather unusual-looking APC in a bit about Syria. My brother, who is even more of a military-equipment nut than myself, informs me that it uses a turret-mounted, breech-loading, direct-fire mortar.

Basically, it fires its round at supersonic velocities, rather than the 900f/s that a normal mortar produces. This allows it to be pretty effective in direct-fire over short ranges, as well as having a longer range for indirect fire.

Truly a weird-looking vehicle. It's even lower than the old Soviet BMP, with a tiny little turret... I'll try to look it up tomorrow, when my bro is awake, so I can post a pic.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:45 am

:D

BTW, while watching the news today, I noticed a rather unusual-looking APC in a bit about Syria. My brother, who is even more of a military-equipment nut than myself, informs me that it uses a turret-mounted, breech-loading, direct-fire mortar.


This one?

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or this one?

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I'm a fan of this thing:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WMp6c3LTxE[/youtube]

... especially mounted on a boat towards the end, looks bloody amazing :D

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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:18 am

I'm a fan of this thing:
we're all fans of that thing

It's high rate of fire is very impressive.. what can be better than an MRSI cabable mortar??

especially mounted on a boat towards the end, looks bloody amazing
The single barrel version looks pretty good too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnlB5mrigyA
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:09 am

POLAND_SPUD wrote:The single barrel version looks pretty good too


Yep, the boat looks like a high tech version of the riverine "monitors" deployed in Vietnam.

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Unread postAuthor: warhead052 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:58 am

MrCrowley wrote:This discussion is getting way too on-topic for my liking. Finish it up by the end of page 191 at the latest* :)


*Assuming a different mod doesn't step in before then.


I'm no mod, but I think I should remind you guys....
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:25 am

warhead052 wrote:I'm no mod, but I think I should remind you guys....


The laser guided bullet discussion ended on page 190 ;)
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Unread postAuthor: warhead052 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:27 am

It still seems the same... :P
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Unread postAuthor: Daltonultra » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:57 pm

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote::D

BTW, while watching the news today, I noticed a rather unusual-looking APC in a bit about Syria. My brother, who is even more of a military-equipment nut than myself, informs me that it uses a turret-mounted, breech-loading, direct-fire mortar.


This one?

[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9xhFbZAwBdA/TYZwozmSgGI/AAAAAAAAEa8/pSnHDjeXOpo/s1600/2S31+Vena_120mm_self-propelled_mortar_gun_system_russia_01.jpg[/img

or this one?

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/2S9_Nona-S.png[/img

I'm a fan of this thing:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WMp6c3LTxE[/youtube

... especially mounted on a boat towards the end, looks bloody amazing :D

[img]http://www.doppeladler.com/misc/amos/CB90amos2.jpg[/img



Hmmm. None of the above. I had some time to look it up, and my brother was off on one point; It's not LIKE a BMP, it IS a BMP. (I didn't recognize it immediately because of the lousy video and screwed-up aspect ratio. Also because I was a little loopy on vicodin...)

The BMP-1, to be precise. It uses a "low-pressure" smoothbore gun that is essentially a mortar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2A28_Grom

Although elevation is limited to only 33*, it is still usable and effective for indirect fire. OTOH, the auto-loader in the turret is a complete POS, and has separated quite a number of gunners from their fingers... Some front-line units removed the loader immediately upon delivery, only keeping the magazine conveyor.


BTW, if you watched video of Libyan rebels with improvised weapons mounts, you probably saw one of these turrets welded into a frame on the back of a Toyota HiLux pickup... The Libyan military pulled a lot of parts from their armor before abandoning them, so the rebels just yoinked the turrets out and plunked em into whatever could handle the weight. Pretty ingenius, if you ask me.

http://gammasquad.uproxx.com/2011/06/me ... yas-rebels

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlfl31SJYiA[/youtube]


Then there's all the other freaky stuff the Libyans put together. I LOVE the remote-controlled Power Wheels Jeep with the PKM...

http://www.nationaljournal.com/the-home ... s-20110615

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCyRBUAEneM[/youtube]
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:13 pm

Daltonultra wrote:The BMP-1, to be precise. It uses a "low-pressure" smoothbore gun that is essentially a mortar.


Yes and no.

It uses the principle pioneered (surprise surprise) by the Germans in WW2 with the Panzerabwehrwerfer 600.

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The cartridge has has a high pressure chamber where the propellant ignites, but the gasses are then bled through ports into the barrel, ensuring low pressure meaning a lighter barrel and recoil system is needed.

This is exactly how almost all modern 40mm grenade cartridges work.
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Unread postAuthor: jsefcik » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:29 pm

im getting a tattoo of my sons name really soon

cant decide whether to get it across my chest under my collar bone or on my back shoulders
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Unread postAuthor: warhead052 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:39 pm

Jsefcik, we already discussed this with you. Get it some where you will be able to hide it easier, that way you are more likely to get a job, and not look like a person from the ghetto.
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Unread postAuthor: jsefcik » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:59 pm

warhead052 wrote:Jsefcik, we already discussed this with you. Get it some where you will be able to hide it easier, that way you are more likely to get a job, and not look like a person from the ghetto.




I def wanna have it hidden especially from my parents
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Unread postAuthor: warhead052 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:10 pm

Yeah, I would suggest something like on your thigh, that way its concealable when you are swimming.
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:56 pm

Dad? Why are you hiding the tattoo of my name from everybody?
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Unread postAuthor: jsefcik » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:32 pm

jrrdw wrote:Dad? Why are you hiding the tattoo of my name from everybody?



why are you asking that lol???


i want to get it where i can look at it,for my design theigh wont work




why would i worrry about it when im swimming, they will see it either way,
and know about it by summer
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