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Unread postAuthor: JDP12 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:38 pm

Hey all..

The best way to explain this concept is with a movie reference. I'm assuming most people have seen the dark knight, so I'm looking for an adhesive similar to what he shoots out of his gun. Not the explosive part, but the adhesive part. I'm not looking for something that expands so much, but something that will stick to surfaces very strongly, hold around 1 or 2 ounces of weight.

Does anyone have any ideas on a substance that could be used.. i.e. a putty or the like?
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Unread postAuthor: 52ndbattalionairsoft » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:43 pm

For what might I ask so I can answer
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Unread postAuthor: 52ndbattalionairsoft » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:53 pm

:shock: your wanting to
Mark your prey!! Haha if there is a putty it would
Clog your clip and gun and would slow your fps do you use co2\gas guns or do u use elec/spring?
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Unread postAuthor: JDP12 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:56 pm

no. none of the above. this isn't an airsoft gun. I said 1 to 2 ounces, not .12 grams.

I explained its purpose pretty well. Also, please don't double post.
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Unread postAuthor: 52ndbattalionairsoft » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:59 pm

Ok I will remember that this is my first hour on the site so I'll keep it in mind there is a thing that is epoxy putty or another thing called uglue both can hold but epoxy is permanent but uglue is not so if that diesnt help sorry
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:22 am

I think your best bet is to do some research on squash head rounds.
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Unread postAuthor: mattyzip77 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:38 am

I concur, JSR your comments and or ideas never cease to amaze me!!! :joker: How about duck tape???? :D :D :D or call Peter Parker, and ask him what he uses in his web slingers??
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Unread postAuthor: jor2daje » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:38 am

What about a similar adhesive to what's used in sticky grenades, I believe the British used them.

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_bomb

Reedit: they use birdlime an adhesive used for trapping birds
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:08 am

mattyzip77 wrote:I concur, JSR your comments and or ideas never cease to amaze me!


That's what forums are for :)

call Peter Parker, and ask him what he uses in his web slingers?


I don't think spider cum is going to help...

What about a similar adhesive to what's used in sticky grenades, I believe the British used them.


The thing is sticky grenades were meant to be placed or at worst thrown against their intended targets, I don't think the same materials will be suitable for a relatively high velocity projectile.
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Unread postAuthor: Hotwired » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:47 am

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
What about a similar adhesive to what's used in sticky grenades, I believe the British used them.


The thing is sticky grenades were meant to be placed or at worst thrown against their intended targets, I don't think the same materials will be suitable for a relatively high velocity projectile.


Depends how fast its going because splash could disperse a soft sticky substance messily and uselessly.

But I'd think along the lines of:

1) An extremely sticky substance (so where can you buy bird lime?)

2) A fibrous mass which the adhesive can cling to and resist dispersion on impact... say a ball of knitting wool

3) Some kind of frangible shell which keeps the adhesive from causing merry hell to the launcher, perhaps also protects from dispersal in flight and shatters on impact.
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Unread postAuthor: jhalek90 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:22 am

I tried this with a VERY VERY sticky pile of old "Flarp" a kids toy meant to resemble slime.

This stuff had spoiled, and was too sticky to remove from my hands without solvent.

After placing it into a sabot, and shooting it with a 1.9'' porting cannon at 100psi, it shattered, and came out the barrel in TINY droplets.

Your largest problem will be finding something that is sticky, and can withstand the launch force.

On a side note: the flarp was recovered from the target, where it did massive damage, but had lost almost all of its stickiness. (Do to being dried out by the massive amount of air, me thinks.)

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jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:I think your best bet is to do some research on squash head rounds.

Squash head, or HESH rounds wiki:
HESH ammunition has good general purpose use being effective against most targets, though the round is generally used at relatively lower velocities because high velocity excessively disperses the pat of substance.
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Unread postAuthor: 52ndbattalionairsoft » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:56 am

I tried this with a VERY VERY sticky pile of old "Flarp" a kids toy meant to resemble slime.

This stuff had spoiled, and was too sticky to remove from my hands without solvent.

After placing it into a sabot, and shooting it with a 1.9'' porting cannon at 100psi, it shattered, and came out the barrel in TINY droplets.

Your largest problem will be finding something that is sticky, and can withstand the launch force.

On a side note: the flarp was recovered from the target, where it did massive damage, but had lost almost all of its stickiness. (Do to being dried out by the massive amount of air, me thinks.)



jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:
I think your best bet is to do some research on squash head rounds.

Squash head, or HESH rounds wiki:
HESH ammunition has good general purpose use being effective against most targets, though the round is generally used at relatively lower velocities because high velocity excessively disperses the pat of substance.
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If u use Suran wrap around the flarp mayb
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:04 am

jhalek90 wrote:HESH ammunition has good general purpose use being effective against most targets, though the round is generally used at relatively lower velocities because high velocity excessively disperses the pat of substance.


The key word is relatively.

A L31 120mm HESH round has a muzzle velocity of 670 metres per second, that's almost 2200 feet per second. Somehow I doubt JDP12 is going that high ;)
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Unread postAuthor: jhalek90 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:57 am

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:The key word is relatively.
A L31 120mm HESH round has a muzzle velocity of 670 meters per second, that's almost 2200 feet per second.


Some how i forgot that firearms shoot things so damned fast, good catch.

I do know that the "flarp" i mentioned.... seemed to behave more like a non-Newtonian fluid, when shot out of my cannon. blowing to pieces before it was able to leave the muzzle.

Possibly A more thicker "liquid" might work better?
i used the term liquid loosely here, as i imagine something like a soft clay.
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Unread postAuthor: jsefcik » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:55 am

jb weld will stick to anything, as long as it is clean surface your putting it on!!!
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