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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:20 pm

I'm listening... This is where you link me to a shopping list ;)

Edit: found one, looks good? http://www.scoutuav.com/build-scout/parts/
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Unread postAuthor: al-xg » Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:52 pm

Well if you were going for a quadrotor:
A KK 2.0 flight controller.

Four ESCs like these (these can be flashed as an upgrade or you could get these pre-flashed ones...)

Four Motors, I've used these DT750s. There are probably easier ones to use out there but I haven't looked in to the thrust values.
This looks fairly beasty.

A battery, this ?

Some form of cheap transmitter and receiver combo. I haven't tried one but this would probably do fine.


A set of right hand and left hand rotating proppellers...

Some wire, some form of power distribution(one could just solder some wires to a XT60 connector).
Some 3.5mm bullet connectors, some of these...
A LiPo charger.
Some zip ties...

That's about it really.

The parts linked to add up to around $212

For the frame you could build it or get a cheap ready made one for $10-50.



Edit: Damn it :) Yep, that scout UAV build list seems pretty good.
The official APM 2.5 controller is still a relatively large expense but it is a full UAV system. There are now cheap chinese versions that can run the official code releases which can be bought for about $140 inc GPS and telemetry, but then a cheap board may not be the best idea if there is quite a bit of investment in the air...
A KK 2.0 controller would work with that kit list and provide a cheap way to get in to multirotors.

Edit again:
I've just realised that I'd basically already built a quad with the parts I listed.
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It was just a quick prototype of one of the ones I'm using now.
The frame is two laser cut wooden plates, some carbon square booms and some nylon bolts.
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Unread postAuthor: Just1ofgod » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:26 pm

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:I'm listening... This is where you link me to a shopping list ;)

Edit: found one, looks good? http://www.scoutuav.com/build-scout/parts/


if you looking to spend that much minds well go with something pro level
preprogramed payload ready autopilot 99.9% stable tons of power RTF

http://www.heli-world.com/detail.aspx?ID=11009

if you go that route i wouldnt learn on that i would get this to practice with and log at least 3 or 4 hours flight time before you take out the big boy

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_inf ... Qgod90MABg

and i highly doubt you would get bored with this micro it will take a long long time for your skills to out grow it parts are pretty cheap and its crashable

this one is totaly payload ready but there is plenty of power and endless modification options here

http://www.heli-world.com/detail.aspx?ID=10255

oh and if you do go with the $pendy route and you get you bada$$ new RC and go make a hole in the ground that just means your a step closer to being a real RC pilot :D

http://youtu.be/szdI3CIcZ6I
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:30 pm

Cheers for that :)

GPS would definitely be something I would be interested in... The way I picture it, four 2 liter coke bottles joined to a central hub would form both outriggers and pressure chambers for a BBMG...

Just1ofgod wrote:http://www.heli-world.com/detail.aspx?ID=11009


I was looking at these on eBay, looks a bit overpriced for the limited payload.

If it's just a question of soldering some parts together I don't think I'd mind rolling my own..

I was thinking of getting one of those 50 dollar ones as a disposable toy, hmmm...
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Unread postAuthor: Just1ofgod » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:02 pm

I was thinking of getting one of those 50 dollar ones as a disposable toy, hmmm...

yeah i wish someone would have told me to do that when i started out cause one thing with rc aircraft of any kind transmitter failer wind low batterys pilot error or just crap luck its going to be totaled sooner or later practicing with a cheapy can help alot

the problem with rolling your own is if you have never done it before its alot of work even if everything is preflashed plug and play your still going to have to trim it out setup the gyros (pending what brand and type) make sure they are all wired correctly (it only takes one) and thats not an easy task even for a vet of the hobby i think if you practiced alot with the mini you might be able to pull it off but trying to learn how to fly for the first time and trim out your copter doesnt sound like a good combo a simulator might not be a bad idea either
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Unread postAuthor: al-xg » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:06 pm

If it's just a question of soldering some parts together I don't think I'd mind rolling my own..

Yeah, it's pretty trivial.
You could potentially 3D print components too ? :wink:

I was thinking of getting one of those 50 dollar ones as a disposable toy, hmmm...

I'm still considering getting one of those mini ones just for fun.

but trying to learn how to fly for the first time and trim out your copter doesnt sound like a good combo a simulator might not be a bad idea either

I'd never flown anything RC before I made my first tricopter and there were indeed quite a few crashes involved (I did only have a basic KK1 v2.1 board at the time which does actually require a good transmitter and flying skills to use) but I just built the first versions with easily replaceable parts. The booms were square pine, zip ties held the motors on, repairs can be kept cheap. That said with features like auto-level and controller built in exponentials etc... multirotors are much easier to fly, in fact I now find it quite difficult to crash.
The mini quadcopter toy would certainly be a good way to get used to flying.
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Unread postAuthor: PaperNinja » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:45 pm

al-xg wrote:You could potentially 3D print components too ? :wink:


Actually, my dad got a 3d printer, it should show up soon. I could probably print stuff for him.

If you're looking to mount a gun on it I'd highly recommend a hexacopter above a quadrotor... especially if you're making your own it probably wouldn't be too much more difficult to make it a hex. If you're worried about the aesthetics of a hex, then you could try a Y6 configuration (less efficient than standard hex, but more power than quad). APM 2.5 can be set up for various kinds of RC, including hex and Y6.[/url]
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:03 pm

PaperNinja wrote:Actually, my dad got a 3d printer, it should show up soon. I could probably print stuff for him.


cheers for the offer but...

If you're looking to mount a gun on it I'd highly recommend a hexacopter above a quadrotor... especially if you're making your own it probably wouldn't be too much more difficult to make it a hex. If you're worried about the aesthetics of a hex, then you could try a Y6 configuration (less efficient than standard hex, but more power than quad). APM 2.5 can be set up for various kinds of RC, including hex and Y6.


I'm not looking to mount an existing system so a couple hundred grams payload should suffice.
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Unread postAuthor: Just1ofgod » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:17 pm

al-xg wrote:
I'd never flown anything RC before I made my first tricopter and there were indeed quite a few crashes involved (I did only have a basic KK1 v2.1 board at the time which does actually require a good transmitter and flying skills to use) but I just built the first versions with easily replaceable parts. The booms were square pine, zip ties held the motors on, repairs can be kept cheap. That said with features like auto-level and controller built in exponentials etc... multirotors are much easier to fly, in fact I now find it quite difficult to crash.
The mini quadcopter toy would certainly be a good way to get used to flying.


the quadrotor i flew was years ago it didnt have auto anything and the gyros on it were adjusted with a flat head screw driver needless to say if i hadnt already been flying single rotor helis it wouldnt have been good for the owner lol well with that said i do beleive im leaving this thread before i get roped into buying another rc aircraft to add to my already oversized collection some of my planes need a new home i dont have time for all of them (poland spud)
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Unread postAuthor: PaperNinja » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:37 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU[/youtube]
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:57 am

The above is obviously fake, this isn't though ;)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYz_D89BLUg[/youtube]
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:59 am

courtesy of POLAND_SPUD:

http://vimeo.com/32408610#

Fork in hell! That is one hell of an angry wasp!

Forget defending yourself with a shotgun...
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:13 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3CwRT1_6Es#![/youtube]

:shock: :shock: :shock:
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Unread postAuthor: mobile chernobyl » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:44 pm

jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:::Faraday Quadcopter Video::

:shock: :shock: :shock:


This is one of those things where if you have to ask why... just stop watching lol!
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:58 pm

mobile chernobyl wrote:This is one of those things where if you have to ask why... just stop watching lol!


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