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Unread postAuthor: PaperNinja » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:06 am

Lothar Walther only sell their smaller caliber airgun blanks in 23.8" lengths. I emailed them, and they said that longer barrels usually have a minimum order of 10. I don't really know how this should work, but I was thinking if there were 10 people interested in a longish barrel for whatever project, we could order 10...

It's kind of a long shot I know, and I'm not sure how the money and stuff will work, but for now I'm just curious if anyone would be interested in this anyway.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:18 pm

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Unread postAuthor: PaperNinja » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:27 pm

Well yeah... But that's still pretty short. Plus, it's got it's own attachment stuff that I wouldn't be able to use (well actually idk, but I assume each gun has its own attachement method). I could try just getting 5.5 mm stuff from mcmaster or whatever, but last time I did that it was the wrong size and wouldn't fit.

I mean, I have an old Red Ryder I could scavenge the barrel from, except I don't know how much pressure that can take, and it's really short...

I don't want to spend a bunch of time on a hybrid that I'm just gonna make inefficient ith a short barrel.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:02 pm

PaperNinja wrote:Well yeah... But that's still pretty short.


It's two feet long, just like the lothar barrel.

Plus, it's got it's own attachment stuff that I wouldn't be able to use (well actually idk, but I assume each gun has its own attachement method).


You'll find a way to adapt it, especially if it's got a set screw attachment.
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:29 pm

What jsr should have said but he didn't is that you don't need long barrels for typical airguns

(here jsr posts pics of an airgun pistol with a crooked barrel and says that for accuracy only ze last inch or so is required)
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:54 pm

If he wants a high performance hybrid, the longer the barrel the better. A 24 inch 0.22" barrel with a decent chamber and 20-25x behind it should give rimfire performance.
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Unread postAuthor: PaperNinja » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:55 pm

What I mean is, both the lothar and the crosman barrels are too short, I had emailed lothar and they said for [barrels longer than 23.8"] the minimum order was 10.

And this isn't a typical airgun, I'm making something very similar to the TBMA but .22 caliber and at much higher mixes.

It sounds like this isn't going to happen anyway... Oh well.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:58 pm

As above, a two foot barrel is more than enough for impressive power using a high mix.
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Unread postAuthor: PaperNinja » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:10 pm

Well I guess I'll be content with rifle power :roll:


(sarcasm)



Edit, I think that came out the wrong way... I mean, rifle power is really strong, so it's a bit silly that I want more.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:31 pm

It depends what you want from it. If you live in the US, you can get a 22 plinker for very little cash. Since you're building your own, making the direct equivalent of a firearm does sound like a waste of time and resources unless there was no way you could get the equivalent firearm.
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Unread postAuthor: PaperNinja » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:37 pm

Yeah I live in the US (and NH where there aren't many laws) and I guess I could get a rifle for like $250... But that's not NEARLY as cool as making one. Also, if I made one then I wouldnt have to worry about licenses or registrations, and a suppressor would be more illegal on a real rifle...
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Unread postAuthor: Jarrado » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:44 pm

Suppressors are legal if you state allows them. Just buy the stupid $250 tax stamp, send in your design and build your own after they send you your stamp. :D
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Unread postAuthor: PaperNinja » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:52 pm

I don't wanna pay $250 :?
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Unread postAuthor: Gippeto » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:44 pm

Have you considered barrel liner? These would likely need to be sleeved into larger steel tubing and epoxied/loctited into place. Have bought 24" lengths only, you would need to enquire about longer pieces.

These are hammer forged and good quality. :)

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/list/Item.aspx/637/1


I don't wanna pay $250


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Unread postAuthor: Lockednloaded » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:01 pm

PaperNinja wrote:...a suppressor would be more illegal on a real rifle...

As much as I wish that were true, it really isn't. If it can be silence a firearm a single dB, it's subject to the full force of the law (even if you don't own a firearm to put it on) It may be easier to fly under the radar of the law with an airgun, but it's still illegal.
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