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Museum vist - Central Armed Forces Museum in Moscow

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Museum vist - Central Armed Forces Museum in Moscow

Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:18 am

As part of my travels in the Motherland I took the opportunity to visit this place. I had been there on my first trip but it was rather rushed, this time took a more leisurely visit and thought I would share some pictures of some unique items which caught my eye, enjoy :)
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The crushing defeat of Nazi Germany is certainly emphasised, especially in this exhibit - "boooo! we captured so many Iron Crosses we don't know what to do with them! booooo!"
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Tribute amply paid to the Soviet Union's vast manufacturing capacity, represented here by an industrial lathe. Dear Santa, is it too late?
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Part of the wreckage of Gary Powers' U-2 spyplane shot down over the USSR in 1960
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Much of the wreckage is extensively perforated by fragments from the almost 200kg warhead of the SA-2 which brought it down, the pilot was lucky to survive.
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Ah bliss... Stechkin APS machine pistol with suppressor, and the integrally suppressed Makarov PB, both in 9x18mm
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What appears to be a prototype for the four barrelled SPP-1 underwater pistol
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Borz improvised submachinegun captured in Chechnya
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*fap fap fap* AS Val and VSS integrally suppressed weapons
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MON-50 Russian claymore mine equivalent
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A personal highlight, the PSS pistol *and* the NRS shooting knife, both chambered for the same silent cartridge
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Some relics from the Kursk tragedy, very sad
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Personal armour plate which shrugged off a shotgun slug
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It was snowing so the outside exhibits couldn't be enjoyed fully, but still impressive. Here's a Mi-24 Hind A gunship
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Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker, this thing is as big as a house, very impressive. More so was the MiG-31 standing behind it!
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Armoured locomotive
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Older generation Soviet jet fighters
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:17 pm

Very nice indeed! Wonder how long it takes to get the locomotive up to speed.
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Unread postAuthor: cowscankill » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:09 pm

Love looking at war museums and such. Has anyone on Spudfiles designed a knife that shoots yet? I know we have a few ballistic knife designs. Combining a pen gun with a knife doesn't seem too hard...
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:21 am

jrrdw wrote:Very nice indeed! Wonder how long it takes to get the locomotive up to speed.


Given the sort of loads these things usually pull I imagine it would have had a relatively small effect on performance. Also, that's nothing compared to the one they have at Kubinka that looks like a battleship on wheels!

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Has anyone on Spudfiles designed a knife that shoots yet? I know we have a few ballistic knife designs. Combining a pen gun with a knife doesn't seem too hard...


Not to my knowledge. I had a little project with Jake for a knife that could shoot darts from its handle but that has been shelved for the time being.

Definitely on my list is buying a full size combat knife to make a big shiny f***-off ballistic knife to end them all :D

Here's some details of the NRS from elsewhere:

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Unread postAuthor: HunterT » Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:16 am

This is really cool jack! Thanks for posting!

*fap fap fap*

I feel the same way about the VSS :D
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Unread postAuthor: Doctore » Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:39 am

Wow soviets shot down american spy plane.Thats impressive.I am sure russians were also spying.

And underwater pistol?Was it harmful?Muzzle velocity?
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:11 am

Wow soviets shot down american spy plane

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I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don't have AA missiles and maps and, uh...


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Unread postAuthor: Doctore » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:51 am

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Wow soviets shot down american spy plane



Consider putting this in your sig
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I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don't have AA missiles and maps and, uh...


haha
I dont know,but it seems that people out here are pretending to be smart.
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:19 am

it isn't really about the first sentence - it's not your fault that your education system sucks...

But these two sentences:
Thats impressive.I am sure russians were also spying.
reminded me of this >>

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Unread postAuthor: Doctore » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:23 am

it isn't really about the first sentence - it's not your fault that your education system sucks...

But these two sentences:
Quote:
Thats impressive.I am sure russians were also spying.
reminded me of this >>


http://vukajlija.com/reakcije/152
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:08 am

HunterT wrote:I feel the same way about the VSS :D


All Russian "special purpose" weapons get my juices flowing, especially those that go "phutttt!" :D

And underwater pistol?Was it harmful?Muzzle velocity?


According to wikipedia it fires "fires a round-based 4.5 millimetres (0.18 in) caliber steel dart about 115 millimetres (4.5 in) long, weighing 12.8 grams (0.45 oz)" at around 800 feet per second in air.

Some idea of the damage it could caused can be seen looking at the similar but slightly larger rounds fired by other Russian underwater weapons, certainly not something you want to get in the way of:

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Unread postAuthor: Doctore » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:30 pm

Yeah,i checked the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-P578pnctU

I thought its faster and this guy is shooting just bellow the surface.Velocity drops due to pressure increase.What is relationship between pressure and velocity?
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Unread postAuthor: PaperNinja » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:00 pm

What is relationship between pressure and velocity?


A better question might be: "What is the relationship between pressure and drag/air resistance?"

And my best answer is: "Probably linear."
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:41 am

From here: http://www.tsniitochmash.ru/archive/wen.htm

killing range:

at a depth of 5 m -> 17m

20 m -> 11m

40 m -> 6m

At greatest possible ranges of fire under water the pistol provides defeat of a target found in a diving suit with a porolon (flexible polyurethane foam) padding and protected by organic glass of 5 mm thickness.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:55 am

Awesome photos! Love the first picture especially :D
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